Wait theyre tweaking top tier rounds?
They are, however, the changes aren’t that significant for most rounds.
I never even knew that, so whats the changes looking like ?
L27 actually gonna be decent or are all minor nations sitting with worse rounds now
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1l0tm2z/2451111_246016_part_5/
No changes for it have been mined yet.
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L27 has no changes at the moment
The only round which was changed significantly was DM33 and DM23 which both got damage caliber reductions
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wtf man, so they’re effectively making htem worse xD
fs man basically pointless then
For the most part yeah, but worth trying to squeeze a few tweaks to the L27A1 stats to get those few extra mm of pen out of it.
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Yes afaik, they are getting a slight pen buff (around 20mm) though
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-.- man why not just give the 2a4 its DM33 and put it to 11.0 already ffs
Think its the worst penning top teir round rn no?
Hmm… Im not sure. Very possibly
edit: Yeah looks like it.
Think leclercs is marginally better
Yeah, about 11mm more pen looking on the wiki. I thought L27A1 was second or third worse, but yeah, looks like that was wrong. We officially have the weakest shell at top tier
followed by one of hte slowest sustained fire rates xD
also no proper stand off cas until near top tier, the GR1A only gets GBUs so not exactly long range.
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Yep, and the worst mobiliy and we dont even have good armour either
At 10.3. The GR1A is actually very good as few have tracking-thermal tpods let alone on a “supersonic” platform with lots of CMs.
But yeah. At 11.7 the Tornado Gr1 is unplayable these days in anything other than a downtier and a lot of our CAS is quite nerfed, especially when compared to the competition.
Sticking to ground though, the lack of decent top tier IFV or SPAA is what hurts the tree the most though
I use it at 10.3, its ridiculous though france has the jag A with AS30L’s at the same BR, meanwhile the super etendard sits at fking 11.0
Thats my point, look at USA, they’ve got 2 A7s’, an A10, F5 (granted unguided) and then the F8E as well.
even the A4E squadron vehicle with guided agms wayyy down low.
but yeah on the topic of ground it is disgusting , even the new badger BR is what 9.0?
we need some form of reliable light tank.
Yeah, they looked at all the possible options for Britain to get a new top tier IFV and went… "Hmm… Lets pick a south african 9.0. That is exactly what this tree needs "
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