Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

As we already have what ? In the 9.0-10.0 area 4 lights?

Got the vfm, rooikat mttd, the rooikat 105, the desert warrior at 10.0 and i think thats it unless im forgetting one.

We also have the fox ar 8.0, why do we keed a 9.0 badger when AJAX or something like that could be added.

Yeah…

exactly. Can even have FnF Javelins for an 11.0

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Personally while I would like to see a L27A1 pen buff, i think a ready rack size increase would be a much bigger buff than getting a bit more pen

Both together would be ideal though

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Isn’t japan’s shell worse?

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Nope, and they have 4 second reload

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I mean I’m just glad they didn’t give japan their “WAR” autoloader mode (3s reload but can damage barrel). Extremely annoying the Challenger 2 has among the weakest armour, weakest mobility and weakest top tier round, its pretty much a joke at this point

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Yeah… unfortuantely its a pretty sad time for us

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I’m not a great ground player but pretty sure britain’s selection of tanks isn’t helping my kdr lol

Yeah, im the same. And probably half the reason why I dont enjoy groudn is because of the Britain tax and I may actually enjoy top tier more with any other tree. But yeah…

We have loads of MBTs and that is pretty much the only good thing ot say about the tree

Double Edged sword- More to grind with the not so good mbts :)

I mean would fill a damn role we need filled, rather than fking 6 MBTs or whatever it is at top tier xD

Oh I’m not saying that I’d prefer the ammo upgrade over the ready rack, as realistically it’s not gonna change that much.
You would need to give it M829A2 levels of pen for it to be a substantial effective buff. (which just aint happening cause even im aware L27A1 is long in the tooth)

Ready rack and armour fix would be better for the CR2s’ intended roles.

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mate if you’re basing what ground can offer based off of using Britian in GRB then I suggest giving USA, Ger, sweden or even china a go

china i’va had nothing but fun with, past 7.7

Britains best lineup was about 10.7 with the CR1 mk3 , vickers mk7, CR1 DS and ofc the mk2 and maybe a light, spaa or CAS/CAP.

for me? 8.7 britains the funnest, the cheiftains are just fantastic fun for the BR providing you dont just hold W

I disliked the grind so much that I won’t ever grind another tree. Another tree would probably be more fun, but the GRB economy is terrible

I’m partial to 10.3 because it avoids the uptiers and you still get full CAS and SPAA.

Which is why I’m hoping for an Ajax with and without javelin, so we have one for 10.3 and one at 11.0 like they’ve done with the puma

Eh so so, depends if you are good at it or not, I ground out the 9.3 auto cannon light for france, the Leopard 2a4 and im 120k from the vextra all in about 4/5 days, not bashing it every day.

I just focused on one tree.

Gotta agree, I hope so too, is germany involved in AJAX? or is it a british thing?

Maybe the gun? But I really don’t know a huge amount about it.

We also could get a few boxer variants though

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guns Nexter and BAE joint made, the turret is german made though, through a rhiemental apparently with BEA interactions.

Providing this comes from wiki so could be more or less I do not really know much

EDIT; The turret is still General Dynamics UK designed so its just put together by Rhiemental, for some reason no one actually really knows

I know, its one of those ones, so the main contractor for AJAX is lockheed martin, as general dynamics UK is the UK branch / department of GD which is from the USA, they outsourced the construction of the turret structure to rhiemental.

God damn shit was simpler in the 60s xD

heres about the only even remotely credible source i can find quickly , and thats at a push to say credible.

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Only the bare citadel structure. The turret is designed and fitted out by Lockheed UK at Ampthill

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Yeah I corrected myself in my furhter additional edits.

Engines apparently german as well