Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

[Morvran]

@CHARM 3

turret traverse speed does seem a bit slow in game but not sure if it is correct or not.

I think its correct. I’ve got the Haynes book at least and it matches the in game stats.

[Kobes-Kamov]

From what I’ve seen the turret traverse is document accurate, but turret traverse is something that can be changed quite easily and is often limited for safety/maintenance reasons.

Hopefully the Challenger 3 P gets better traverse/elevation though.

[Morvran]

I just find it annoying that crew skills affects turret rotation speed on tanks where crew skill shouldnt really be relevant. With one that is hand cranked, it makes sense, but on something like the CR2, its a tad annoying,

[luque13]

100% and the accuracy of laser ranging, such a stupid gameplay decision.
That and if your crew skill isnt good enough the map markers of spotted tanks are not where the tank is.
Why is my crew being impacted by this stupid mechanic?

[FlyingOstridge]

Let’s put it this way. The Chally 2 turret is based on the Vickers Mk.7/2. In game the Chally 2 has max traverse of 31°/s which is the same as the Mk.3
The Vickers in game has a traverse speed of 36°/s and Mr 06 has said it should be 40°/s. Either way you look at it the Chally should be closer to 36°/s

[Sea_Harrier_FRS1]

@luque13

L27A1 is so poor too

@luque13

This is from the last game a breach shot on a T-90M and it turned the breach yellow and the T-90M killed me with their first shot.

It’s not a one off either certain tanks, the Leopards 2A6 and above and T-90M have an artificially buffed resilient mantlet. Also note how no crew died either.

This could somewhat be delt with if we got L27 with the anti ERA tip but I don’t know much about that but maybe it could make it better against WT Relikt

[An_Pigeon]

Cause gaijin dont use the equation in its whole form.

There was an old forum post about how most tanks pen are lower than should be due to this.

Hell all the short 90s for the US have lower pen than they should.

@CHARM 3

The tank is unplayable because its slow and cant be used in its desired role of hull down and ridging. You cant make hull down or sniping spots because the maps arent big enough, and everyone will and up sniping or being hull down since accuracy isnt dependent on your tank.

I mean while true enoughz ive watchef T72As take out cr2s through the frontal arc, not lfp at about 400 meters, while the l27a1 bounced off 😂 2bm22 could not penetrate cr1, as stated by the brigadier in the tank chats reloaded on cr1.
So why tf can it go through a cr2 with ease.

If ye had to aim sure. Hut the armour is absolutely laughable

[CHARM_3]

@An_Pigeon

cr2s through the frontal arc

Yes ive noticed the same.

We ask for 2 things. Fix what we have or add more vehicle to help our lineup. Gaijin does neither,

[An_Pigeon]

@CHARM 3

We ask for 2 things. Fix what we have or add more vehicle to help our lineup. Gaijin does neither,

yeah they just add stuff which doesn’t work xD CR3 TD, what was the time gap between the CR2 E and CR3 TD? cause it felt like some time had passed IMO.

The CR2 ARmour generally needs buffed