Oh, 100% the challengers are getting the utterly stupid turret basket nerf, its just a matter of time.
Gaijin really, really, really need to think again about this turret basket thing, it’s the most ridiculous thing in the game since scharnhost and the ch2’s mantlet.
British tanks will have the boiling vessel modelled just to give even more spall
I am 100% planning a bug report for that. Its gunna take me about 28 more days to write so should be up right at the start of april :P
I imagine they have a board of directors that just sit around a table all day plotting how they can make NATO stuff as bad as possible.
honestly, I’d like it if any and all the little bits they could add were modelled, because even the smallest bit of sheet metal could act as a spawl catcher. these things could include, empty ammo holding frames, empty ammo boxes, radio boxes, radios, holders for weapons, doors and hydraulic struts for IFV’s, crew and dismount seats in IFV’s like the Bradley and Warrior crew and dismount seats, separating walls inside vehicles, engine firewalls, CBRN filters, air vents, mortar hatches, external boxes like equipment boxes, even if its only 1mm/2mm of steel, that’s still SOMETHING that could do something and could even catch spawl and help the survivability even if its incredibly minor. I realize all that additional stuff would made the inside of vehicles really cluttered, but we have the xray filter for a reason.
Challenger 2 actually doesn’t have a turret basket, if I remember correctly.
correct, there are photos of challenger 2 with its turret on a crane; no basket in sight.
Courtesy of da12thmonkey in British weapon systems forum topic.
Just as a small note; that picture could be used as an example as to where the breach should located vertically while the barrel is laid flat. Right now in game, it sits too high, and this is a good example of the gun/breach laying directly flat; so if anyone needs a picture as proof for a big report, you wont get better than this.
Oh they know its wrong, they just dont care.
Definetly a marketing lie
Of course, Challenger 3 will get them.
Regarding Challenger 2, there is a manual that details the internal structure of the hull, which shows the rotational structure associated with the bottom of the hull and the tank turret, but considering that there may be confidentiality issues, I will not show it here.
i cant believe it. finaly a non issue irl that is in favour of the challenger in game…
People cry for realism then when its implemented half assed it breaks the game.
exhibit A - Aim120s.
exhibit B - Leopard 2a7 vs CR3 TD xD
Who wants to bet the fake cr3 is going to get it despite being a chally 2.
Haha, as long as Gaijin does not cancel and continue to add “realistic” structures to the tanks in the game, he will get them one day. There is no need to bet that you just need to review Smin’s reply in this regard, unless you think Gaijin is lying. Of course, my personal position is that I don’t want any tank to suffer this kind of treatment. It’s just an objective statement of the current situation.
Turret ring identify as turret basket for EVERYONE(except rusia)
-Gaijin E
yeah thats the main concern here. The turret basket should be structural steel a best and deffo not the horizontal drive at all. even if a hole was punched in the turret basket by say a AP round, I HIGHLY doubt that would stop the traverse in any way or form; keeping in mind there have been reported cases of people literally losing their lives to turrets traversing when traveling between the turret and crew compartments due to them being… caught in the movement lets say… which tells me there’s intense torque in those enough to end someone’s life; so a bit of dented thin steel wouldn’t infringe that movement at all if it can do that sort of damage to a human. Gaijin should be making turret baskets structural steel, the same as other random component in vehicles that would SEEM useless but would act as spawl catchers, ie, seats, firewalls, weapon holders, hatches, hydraulic rams, pistons, boxes, wires, etc etc.
Hydraulic leaks and damage to couplings. Leopard mount the electric boards under the turret and reports have shown they have lost power by catching them.
Yes modelling the whole thing instead of individual components is a mistake.
I’ve had all electronics go out on a Leopard 2A6 when some turret basket safety guards caught the fuseboard in the back of the fighting compartment. Damage to the basket can also lead to the electrics going out in the turret, as the electricity is transfered through a contact in the bottom of the basket.
Tell me you aren’t a tanker without telling me you aren’t a tanker. I’ve had half my reservoir pour into my sub turret because part of the turret basket was bent outward and we traversed over the rear to let the driver out. It may not cut the hydraulic line but it sure will pull it out of couplings.
Just some of the quotes I have seen. Yes the basket it to protect the crew but a tanks internal space is limited so you route things in the most efficient way.
Aluminum actually
I think gaijin see some cylinders and thought that must be related to the traverse mechanism so they just make it a whole traverse mechanism
