The difference between 80s therman vision and that of the late 90s is a massive improvement when on earth are you on?
Stop instigating.
youre one to talk bro
Stop fighting with each other and shout at gaijin for christ sakes xD
look at the plethora of bug reports for the majority of vehicles in game. Look how many vehicles we are missing.
Ill use britain for an example. up to mark 13 in centurions, from engines and FCS to straight up full overhauls of the tank, yet were sitting with the “best” british centurion being the MK10 being insidiously slow and pathetically armoured for how it should be.
Then the chieftains ? mk3 and 5 ? how does that work when there was a plehtora of them, no mk8s, 2s, 4s, 11s or the prototype 900s etc
challanger 2 , they could of actually went with the 2006 trialed 120mm rheimental gunned CR2 with DM53 opposed to this absolute travesty that is the CR3 TD.
the majority of trees are missing a plethora of their own tanks, or trialed tanks and are now rammed full of Copy and paste, there its said.
And we all sit bickering with one another over what tanks is slightly worse than the next, its bloody pointless man.
Also BTW he quite literally got disproven theres no need to bring it up now.
Interesting fact, IRL its called 2TD 🤣🤣🤣
But Gaijin does not believe. There is somewhere picture there this modified chelli stay behind Poster which says “Challenger 2 Technology Demonstrator”
🤣🤣🤣
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Best centurion we have is Olifant mk.2)))))
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I mean actual centurions that are british, out with south african and such.
But yeah the oli is infact the best one, though the MK2 isnt really a cent anymore.
the fact we have centurion 1 through 13 and only have 3 of those actual british ones in the tech tree is pretty poor.
Yeah I thought I had seen that somewhere actually.
Do you know whats even sillier, the “CR3 TD” being stripped out of its turret spall liners etc, which makes no sense to fire that 120mm rheimental gun inside it! they already trialed a CR2 with that exact gun in 2006 as part of the CLIP program! without stripping the tanks internals xd so why does the 3TD in game not even facilitate the base levels of protection a CR2 has to meet.
what exactly is the CR3 TD demonstrating ? xD
i imagine it’s mostly electronics and stuff that doesnt factor into war thunder, they might have had to remove the spall liner for fitting the new systems and as a non-combat demonstrator they weren’t refitted. As far as I’m aware there’s no photos of the inside of the BN so while it’s possible the same happened there, there’s no evidence for it.
I hear clip had very limited ammo stowage, and the photo I’ve seen looks like 6 rounds of stowage.
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theres loads of tanks with incorrect ammo values right now as it sits, im sure they could find a way to make the 2006 clip CR2 work better than this damn abomination of a CR3.
im aware the clip project was panned and so on, however the “CR3 TD” in game is not even right at all, teh fact a T55A can one tap it through the front of the turret is wild af
No, then it was standard L55 with parts from L30A1 gun.
Challenger 2 TD uses improved L55A1, wich has much stronger gun breech. It allow chelli 2TD use DM73 with 670mm penetration.
But Gaijin did not add a shell, for wich gun was created.))))))
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My apoligies however the 2006 clip program CR2 would be more fitting in the game RN than the abomonation that is the 3TD.
The fact its slower than a CR2 when it actively has less in it, e.g spall liner missing, and no roof MG etc yet is slower than the CR2 from the early 2000s… as if the CR2 platform it was based off of suddenly would have a worse engine etc.
it makes no sense how butchered it is man.
I wonder if they are going to nerf the turret drive like they’ve done with the Abrams and Leopard in the future.
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Oh, 100% the challengers are getting the utterly stupid turret basket nerf, its just a matter of time.
Gaijin really, really, really need to think again about this turret basket thing, it’s the most ridiculous thing in the game since scharnhost and the ch2’s mantlet.
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British tanks will have the boiling vessel modelled just to give even more spall
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I am 100% planning a bug report for that. Its gunna take me about 28 more days to write so should be up right at the start of april :P
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I imagine they have a board of directors that just sit around a table all day plotting how they can make NATO stuff as bad as possible.
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honestly, I’d like it if any and all the little bits they could add were modelled, because even the smallest bit of sheet metal could act as a spawl catcher. these things could include, empty ammo holding frames, empty ammo boxes, radio boxes, radios, holders for weapons, doors and hydraulic struts for IFV’s, crew and dismount seats in IFV’s like the Bradley and Warrior crew and dismount seats, separating walls inside vehicles, engine firewalls, CBRN filters, air vents, mortar hatches, external boxes like equipment boxes, even if its only 1mm/2mm of steel, that’s still SOMETHING that could do something and could even catch spawl and help the survivability even if its incredibly minor. I realize all that additional stuff would made the inside of vehicles really cluttered, but we have the xray filter for a reason.
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Challenger 2 actually doesn’t have a turret basket, if I remember correctly.
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correct, there are photos of challenger 2 with its turret on a crane; no basket in sight.
Courtesy of da12thmonkey in British weapon systems forum topic.
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Just as a small note; that picture could be used as an example as to where the breach should located vertically while the barrel is laid flat. Right now in game, it sits too high, and this is a good example of the gun/breach laying directly flat; so if anyone needs a picture as proof for a big report, you wont get better than this.
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