Wdym there would be no need to?
Catherine’s gen 3 you Muppet.
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Why spend millions on what would be a minor improvement in quality, that is if it was gen 2, which it isn’t.
Why not change from a 80s technology to 2000s technology if you are putting it in everything either way.
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According to this thread TICM is 10 years ahead of every other TI so it shouldn’t be a problem?
Me when the upgraded for Catherine was done because of reasons that ain’t thermal quality
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Full HD cooled staring array thermal imaging is a massive quality improvement over Gen 2. And we’re saying TICM-II is better than other Gen 1 systems that puts it close to Gen 2 - not that it’s better than Gen 2 as well.
However it’s not just about the image quality. Industry and manufacturing has moved on from TICM - spares are running out and it costs more and more to maintain older systems.
We’ve used Gen 2 on other platforms like Warrior and Stormer for over 20 years but didn’t bother with it on Challenger because TICM-II wasn’t significantly worse.
Other contemporary Gen 1 systems used by the British Army like SPIRE on Scimitar (based on Hughes Infrared Equipment) and dismounted systems like OTIS and Spyglass (TICM-I category imagers) have been progressively phased out or superseded by a multitude of solutions including Gen 2 and Gen 3 cooled systems, and lightweight uncooled VOx imagers.
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This is whats a major disappointment to me.
Like all of those features would massively improve a multitude of vehicles across a range of BRs.
However as you say, it has been left to rot, its really sad tbh. got bug reports accepted years ago and just never touched on.
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The best challenger: using Challenger 2E’s MT883 engine + Challenger BN’s Iron Fist APS + Challenger 2ATD’s RH120 L55A1
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Still inferior to the top tier tanks of the game. That’s what so funny about the reluctance of to fix or make the Challenger 2 series good.
It’s like Britain can only have competitive tanks at 9.7 - 10.3
Gaijin are so afraid of giving Britain a competitive top tier tank
the 7.7s, 8.0s 8.3s , 8,7s, 9.0s(and 9.3s) are all extremely competative what u on about? xD
edit: 10.7 as well is extremely good, not just competitive, britain while the vehicles are incorrect are still insanely good from about 7.7 to 10.7 then it falls off a cliff.
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Can we stop with the conspiracies.
At this point…why major things like ready rack size hasn’t been addressed yet despite year+ reports for It. Does raise questions
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As I said Britain can only be competitive up to those brs and not top tier. Every top tier addition Britain has received in the last 3 years has been an unfinished unrefined mess.
CR2s
CR3
Stormer
Tornado
Even Typhoon (although not exclusive to Britain so it might get fixed)
L27A1
Desert Warrior
The only time British tanks and vehicles are allowed to be added and be competitive or equal to the meta is the lower Brs.
Fox as the example.
CR3 is meant to bring the CR series tanks to the levels of the Leopard 2A7/8 and the M1A2 SEP V3.
in game it’s a nerfed mess. Gaijin could have just added a tank based on the requirements and the reports/testing and made it good maybe nearly as good as a Leopard 2A6…Could you imagine???
No instead they released it ignored bug reports, nerfed its HP and refused to add blow out panels and spall liners! Then they took a decision not to buff it’s reload rate (when they buffed everyone else’s excluding Leopard 2)
CR2…Where to begin! They punished the player base for the document leaks, they redid the model and made the tank weaker and incorrect now your turret right is massively exposed. They persist in only allowing 4 rounds in the ready rack. Despite the Chieftain having ammo in the exact same design and in game is given a larger ready rack! They added L27A1 and made it the worse top tier round.
After a while and if we look at patterns the last buff the CR2 series tanks received as the higher pixels for the camo netting!
They made sure the tank was buried and they are not looking at bug reports for the CR2 or the CR3
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More like the levels of the 2A6… But this is the problem when you have a tank that still has the fundamentals of a 1960 design. To fix the issues with it would be prohibitively expensive, the most important of which in the Challenger 2 is the lack of a non-NATO standard gun/ammunition.
The Leopard 2 has just as many bug reports open, this is not exclusive to the Challenger 2 or British vehicles.
I know that but the Leopard 2 is still very playable and the CR2 and 3 are just sad
No you did not.
you said “It’s like Britain can only have competitive tanks at 9.7 - 10.3” that statement literally means, they have competitive tanks at 9.7 to 10.3-
That means anything bellow or above that are not competitive.
Which is just absoltuely false. im an avid British nation player, and person, and while its disgusting that the CR2s are in such a state it’s also very sleekit of you to act like the entire tree is not even competitive.
- The CR1’s are some of the best single 10.7s in the game, especially the mk3’s-
- the whole area of 7.7 to 10.7 is fantastic, the chieftains while with issues are still phenomenal tanks, vickers mk3 , 8.3 with good mobility, reload, a good apds and LRF. Olifant mk1 ! 8.3, with LRF, decent turret armour, decent optics and M111 round.
L27A1? whats wrong with it, unfortuantely IRL the round itself is a bit long in the tooth now.
Were all aware of the CR2’s but this isnt an issue solely about them, the whole roster of tanks in this game have hundreds, probably thousands of bug reports.
While I want the CR2’s fixed I also want to see other tanks fixed and BRs to reflect it.
this is a joke of a vehicle which in game has no idea what its supposed to be.
What tornado ? the F3 is fine, the F3 late is slated to go down in BR which brings it up to speed.
The typhoons only issue as far as I can see is the fact the brims are nerfed, which is a joke yes, but 18x FnF is also stupid to add at this stage (for GRB)
No the CR3 IRL has a brand new composite named Farham, the hull is also apparently to be reinforced, its touted as to be the next best thing on the battlefield.
the CR3 , the real one, Is to be an extremely effective MBT, using if I remember right full digital FCS, and all sorts of fancy gizmos for coordinating attacks and communicating with the air support and what have you.
NONE of which matters in WT xD the biggest issue with the CR3 TD in game, is its missing spall liners and a blowout panel.
the whole point in the tech demo was to show off the “new” 120mm gun, essentially fired into a modified CR2 at that point.
Which begs to ask, why are the spall liners gone, why would they remove them xD
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I also just made two reports for the chieftain and fv107 respectively calling for a remodel in the armour.
The Chieftain tanks also need there proper engine as well as a 2 stroke engine modeled. They should have much better acceleration.
The entire upper frontal plate should be one big cast solid glacis plate that’s much thicker than what is in game.
The FV107 needs a completely new armour layout as gaijin was just lazy and didn’t even research the vehicle.
Give it all that and the chieftain could relocate effectively get hull down and be a sniping beast.
The FV107 could legit not be penned by a good amount of IFV apds at long range if it had its correct armour.
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can we see the reports for the chief?
They definitely need what theyre supposed to have.