Britains hardly a new tree.
Same with japan they’ve been around for literally years.
Germany but does have a lot of nice tanks
not right either, take a look at thunderskill its the best comparison we get but accurate enoug
lower brs 3.3-6.7 suffer greatly under the lack of lights and most tanks being slow / mid range speed.
This leads to not being able to play the objectives right or getting constantly flanked resulting in a lot of losses
7.0-10.0 isnt great either, overall Uk looks better br to br then germany does
“amazin lights” complete lack of lights from 3.7-6.7
objective as well, the only real dominiering vehicle at its br is the 2a7v
for most part right but like everyone gaps at times 7.0-8.3 luchs and wiesel are not spaas and 8.3-9.7
yes and thats why the amount of vehicles is in fact pretty close to germany,
Japan has less cause its newer and for the same reason israel has even less, that does in fact stay true
did i deny that anywhere? i am just denying luques statements
Thunderskill reflects the players more than the vehicles.
Statistically britain has far worse tanks than germany does between rank two and 5 is it that goes to 6.7
thats just a lie.
ill work from 10.0 and back.
10.0 has Leopard 2K, radkampfwagen, leopard 2AV. gepard 1a2, weisel 1a2 and the ozelot for spaa as well.
Thats a 5 tank lineup with a great light, a great MBT and a good mbt and then two decent spaa and a TD.
unfortunately they are 9.7 and not 10.0 but for the list they are in the same rank.
for 9.3 you have
lights - Begleitpanzer 57 (and tam 2IP if you are including prems.)
MBTs - leopard 1a5, KPZ70, T72M1, M48 Super and the Leopard A1A1 L/44
SPAA - Gepard (long in the tooth but a great spaa none the less)
For 8.3
Lights - none due specifically but can uptier both marder and DF105
MBTS - M48A2 G A2 and the turm III ( if we include prems)
SPAA - gepard
TD - Rakjpz (hot)
for 8.0
lights - DF105, marder 1a3 and the BMP1
MBTs- Leopard 1
SPAA - none closest is weisel 1A4 at 7.3 (this isnt good but most nations have a gap here.)
TD - Rakjpz 2 (standard) and the raketenautomat. which is destructive af.
All of these lineups are substantially better than what most other trees can field at the same BRs, These also do not include outliers and mix and matching BRs those are explicitly if you use only the BRs as they are listed.
For example can take 9.0 to 9.3 or take 9.7s into 10.0 ,
the leopard A1A1 would sit in the 9.3 area for example.
Thats just blatently not true.
The tigers for absolute years sat at 5.7 as well as the panthers, both were under BRd compared to the competition.
Again most trees lack a light in that area
USA 3.7 - 6.0
Germany 3.7 - 6.7
USSR is such a mess the closest i see is the 2.3 to 4.3 jump to the ASU
Britain 4.3 - 6.3 not as much but still two whole BR brackets.
Japan 3.7 - 6.3
china is in the second best spot for lights it seems next to france both have one for almost every BR
Italy 3,7 - 6.0
france - best position IMO due to having a good light for almost every BR
sweden 2.7 - 6.7 unless you count the jump between the 2.7 and the PT76
then its 2.7 - 5.3
Japans been in the game for years and theyve only just started to have some additions.
No no, im not saying you deny it at all.
Im just stating the tree has a lot of really nice tanks.
You seem to have an issue with the dude.
Maybe take it up in private messages rather than bring germany into the CR2 chat once again.
Also germany has some of the best guns for the BR.
The PZIVs, stugs, hetzers and ostwinds etc.
you also have the panthers, tigers, and tiger 2s in this area.
far better vehicles than what most trees can field at the same respective BR.
Yes they only can use teh little car light, but remember it has a good fun and is very quick.
i still use it in my 6.7 lineup due to this.
Britain has roughly 89 ground TT vehicles 27 prem/ event ( I may have miss counted due to how many there are.) total of 116
Germany has roughly 104 TT vehicles 44 prem/ event ( I may have miss counted due to how many there are.) total of 148 tanks
thats a difference of over 32 vehicles.
Britian was added in 2016 rougly no? thats 9 years ago and only recently got a lot more added to it.
Germany has been in it since the get go no?
like i said, i used the thunderskill thing for quick reference, that is not me lying
its a line up thing regardless 2av is an event , quite an old one even and for the vast maturity not available 10.0 is only radkampfwagen and leo 2k. it suffers under the 10.7 br black hole and gets sucked into it and doesnt realy perform as a results
but generaly i do find the high tiers 7.0 up the most balanced as well. my problems rather lie in the lower brs
yes and the time difference between germany and Uk explains those 32 vehicles, time wise they do have the same
not the case anymore and even then still the case of realy slow for their br and being easily flanked as a result. taking them out aint that hard
8 years, the japanese tree aint that small anymore 59 tech tree i count alone
still checks out compared to others in my opinion considering germany had like a 3 year headstart
to consider is as well that the earlier it was added the less resources had to be split between different trees
best guns maybe, they still get beat out in other areas, everyone had their own strengths. other nations being focused on speed, armor or win trough cas dominance cough USA cough
if that guy would stop his hate boner for germany it wouldnt be needed shrug
once again i wasnt the one that did take it here, i dont start conversation about it like he does in german threads
even now i am only answering you guys
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No i meant its a lie to say the BR brackets have bad vehicles.
hence the comparitive list of good vehicles at said BRs
The 2AV I sometimes forget is an event vehicle. they were cheap a while back.
The 10.0 area is a bit emptier now adays but hence the reference to the uptier able nature of vehicles, hell i still take the Leo2K to 12.0 and it does fine there due to the mobility 20mm auto cannon combo
The tiger 1s are some of the fastest heavies in their BR brackets are they not.
The tiger 2s sit at about 42 KMPH last i checked as well at 6.7
reverse for the panthers is a killer though.
yeah but its only had a few jammed in recently due to complaints.
As well as that germany has nearly double japan with 104 TT and even so 30 odd less than britain which is only a year older.
yeah that is a pain in the hole tbh.
they arent sluggish but i get what you mean.
T-34 for example out paces the PZIV but does not out gun it.
Been a while since ive been bellow 7.7 as well.
I say it not to be crude or anything its more so it keeps the topic on the CR2 , as much as i love discussing the game and many aspects of it. the replies weve had with one another are quite far off topic.
If he chooses to spout nonsense there, counter him on it and what not.
but id generally just not entertain it.
saves you a headache.
ive only seen him in here talking bout the CR2s and any other nonsense thats came out i dont agree with or isnt true i correct.
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Oh god, do we have a german trying to convince you that they are worse than all nations in the british forums again… i wouldn’t bother if i were you.
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If you would actualy read, you would see that i did not do that.
I said that germany has its issues as well and isnt perfect.
Nowhere did i compare it to another nation and say its worse
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It isnt perfect but it has more, better tanks, throughout the BRs compared to most other trees.
It has a nice set of lineups, its biggest issue was the cas and cap for GRB (especially the non existent Cas and cap till recently at top tier)
if he was trying to convince me he wasnt trying very hard.
He just pointed out some stats, which arent wrong, and some other bits n bobs as observations.
We are all aware of some mains of some nations being a pain, dotSHINI isnt that.
For example, 2A7 armour is statistically under performing due to when the vehicle and armour package it uses went into service.
Leo2a4M can is literally modelled completely wrong as per the bug reports.
Abrams we all know its issues.
merkavas,
leclercs etc all have worse issues sure.
but all the nations we play suffer to the negligence of devs now, Hell even russian vehicles are getting hit with C & P garbage that isnt even modelled right, the T80UE1 had bug reports on it when it first rolled out too. I try not keep up too much with bug reports or issues with the big 3 nations as they are substantially more well rounded than the other trees.
it doesnt have to be german main VS british main, or US main VS china main etc etc for who has it worse.
We should collectively look at all the vehicles and realise that they arent even bothering half the time, check the bug reports from that last update alone. then compare it with the previous update and see how many they actually fixed. not slight audio bugs i mean genuine issues.
Like i said, thats realy mostly cause of implementation age. Russia/US/germany are the oldest nation and tjose have the most vehicles simple as that.
There is not sth special behind it
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Not entirely true, i dont just mean the quantity of vehicles I mean the actual capability of said vehicles with one another as well, the actual effectiveness of the lineups is pretty dang potent. where one nation may have a couple good ones germany consistently has decent or good ones all the way through, bar maybe right at 2.0 ish area ( i kinda dont like that area so i wont say that as a certaintity)
yes there is, german tank design and production.
They made some extremely effective tanks! years ahead of the competition
however there isnt some form of bias or nonsense from gaijin
I’m not directly aware of what video reference was used for this bug report so if some one knows please say. But surely this may reopen avenues of bug reporting. Remembering back to the old forum, the turret transverse speed, hull traverse speed and ready rack size/sustained fire rate were also aspects that were bug reported with video evidence.
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Ah yes suddenly they use videos again…
Bet its only for selected bug reports but
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Aircraft videos have been accepted recently it’s how Russia managed to get the Su-27 fm buffed.
Tanks are harder as they are inside the tank or focussing primarily on the tank and the images can be sped up.
However i’m sure it was also a video that buffed the M1 reload rate
Videos for jets would be easier to modify and alter to suit a purpose such as increasing or decreasing turn time.
I tried using one for harrier and it gotnflat out refused a while ago.
Unfortunately if its not the latest addition and withing a few months gaijin tend to do nothing.
I hear ya bud
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You can see the report here, they linked to a video and I think you can get the files from the google drive folder too
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Wow that’s surprising. This actually annoys me considering MatrixRupture‘s harrier report is more detailed than this with official test reports, yet was denied due to “impossible wing efficiency” and “our calculations disagree”.
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I mean Fear Naught’s original videos had him talking, ambient noise and people walking in the background. Yet back then they still refused it. I wonder if anyone kept them, would be funny to see them accept the same evidence that was originally refused.
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Standard isn’t it.
Like irrefutable proof and they say its impossible.