the rule with challenger 2 right now is to just not get shot. if you do, 90% chance you will be mobility killed and then finished off, or you will out right get taken out, without any real opportunity to defend yourself. plus again, having a bad round also doesn’t help. you have to play the chally 2’s in a way that you would play light tanks in some cases. low pen, no armour. it just doesn’t have the speed to even back up that playstyle either; so the rule is easier said than done.
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You are too slow to not get shot though, I wouldn’t mind if you had a 140mm rail gun but you don’t you have the worst performing gun at top tier.
map design kills that though bud, there are no hills or terrain it’s tiny maps and suffering
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L27A1 and all Chobham armours are gimped on purpose. It’s opposite day everyday in war thunder as T80s and ZTZs boast superior explosive lego brick armour. Dumbass western design, too heavy and big da, stuck in mud, regenerative steering? Never heard of it comrade xaxaxaxaxa.
its actually with a stock crew about 8.2 seconds if my numbers were right, on my expert crews past the ready rack leaves you with 7.4 seconds i think it was and on a fully leveled but not expert its 7.6 or 7.8
thats why american air and swedish ground dominate the game xD
I havent timed it but feels very slow!
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coming from the CR2s gridning out the 3 TD just last month, to grinding the M1A2 and the Leo2a5 and 6 in the same time it took me to get the 3TD yeh it is impossible and the abrams and leo far out do the challangers completely.
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it is the slowest reload without ace crew at top tier past the ready rack.
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I actually think i would rather have a Leo 2A4 than the top tier CR2.
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the first nuke i got was with the 2a4 prem 2AV and 2K vs 11.3 cr2s and what not.
the 2a4 genuinely out performs it in most regards bar the round
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Just tried the black night etc again.
Jesus wept this is sad.
Breech is messed up, side nera is messed up. Ready rack is messed up.
The entire tank is an exercise in how to nerf something in the ground.
They’re so badly implemented and nerfed, you might as well drop them to 11.x and be done with it.
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Top tier Britain is CAS and CAP now.
Spawn your light tank try and cap, couple of assists and grab your GR.4 or Typhoon
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Nar the gr7 is the best the new tornado is great to iccbm pantsirs tho with the pgms.its kinda sad that they have messed up the chally so bad its main objective is to get you in a jet
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Best ‘high’ BR for UK at the moment seems to be CR1 (10.7ish). The Challenger 1s actually have some armour relative to their tier, plus you get the Lynx Hellfire-Spitter-5000 and a few winged toys.
Playing with the Challenger 2s (any of them) is just an exercise in frustration. I can only assume a dev had a distant relative who got plinked by one at some point…
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Been playing the black night and actually had some decentish games. If it got a bigger ready rack and a reload for the APS I think it would be pretty fun.
The mantle/gun/breach being too high and forward is massively annoying, if they aren’t going to make it effective they could at least model it correct visually.
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mate ive had a 2s38 go through the turret cheeks, the armour layout is completely broken, the rounds useless , the mobility is useless the 2E is fast sure but its still extremely sluggish compared to the competition.
the breach now is bigger than ever.
Right now even what we were promised in spring hasnt even been touched on. we were promised it be made comparable to the competition and be competitive, right now as it stands 10.3 MBTs can go toe to toe with the CR2s and win, without much of an issue either.
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i mean mate you cant even go hull down cause your breach literally crests the hill before the gun does xD somehow
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CR1 Mk3, vickers mk7 CR1 DS if u can, i personally use the VFM but the Rooikat is better, and you get the jaguar GR1A which has good guided bombs.
thats a bold statement brother. funny but xD
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GR.7 is great but so slow and handles like crap Pantsir eat them. AGM 65 are nice though.
The gun positioning is definitely one infuriating aspect of the tank. Relative to the top of the turret it’s the lowest mounted gun of all the top tier MBTs so you have to expose the massive fivehead way before you can get muzzle clearance.
By which time anybody who has half a brain will have shot through your paper mantlet/roof and taken out your breech at the very least.
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