Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

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A terminator squad sitting in a rhino as their friendlies get slaughtered around them.

everyone else is allowed something if Russia has something equal. if they don’t, its not allowed. but the other way around? if Russia has something nobody else has an equal to? they just add it anyway.

example, Pantsir for SPAA and BMD-4, BMP-2m for firing atgm’s at full speed.

Russia do have a history of being given preferentual treatment with things others cant compete with. SU-39 with rear facing IRCM, KA-50’s with broken damage models.

or some of the most broken event vehicles. Obj 279, BMD-4, and Obj 292 (though it isn’t as great now though if a nato vehicle had that pen it would be 11.3 at introduction.)

lets not forget how the new premium T-80 has the most detailed camo net of any of them in game. not that it matters much but if we didnt all have thermals at that br i imagine it would make things a bit more difficult than the flat textures they use for challenger 2.

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IRCM

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corrected. ty.

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@Gunjob did that mantlet img you sent a message to declassify got cleared?

I got a response, posted about it in the last thread, but the answer was no it was not for public consumption.

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The use of consumption gave me a chuckle.

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yea i was guessing since ive been searching the img on x and couldnt find it.

i did find something that im sure it shouldnt be there but the post is from 2021

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Here is the proposed change, This will not be a buff but likely just enough of a reduction in spalling or penetration to stop the Big 3 crying about the Fox.

Note the Warrior and Falcon use the same 30mm APDS, these could impact them too.

Failing that we could see the Fox at 8.0+

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And Falcon and AMX 30 DCA

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Don’t make me wheel out the Richard Hammond sketch again on Top Gear

“not fit for Public Consumption”
“what about Private Consumption?”

😐

It’s not great tbh. Just an all around nerf. I can’t remember where I saw it so take it with a grain of salt, but apparently it’s “significant”

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Im guessing It will make it on par with other rounds of a similar type:

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Being Britain, probably the weakest of the 4 examples in that graph. So Id guess maybe 70-75mm of pen? below 1000m but a buff above 1000m

iirc on paper it should be a little better. Almost the same weight as 3UBR8, and almost same speed as the ZBD04A APDS, but probably not quite. Can’t wait for T-54/5s to become more of a pain in the ass.

On paper and Gaijin, rarely agree unfortunately

That’s going by their own numbers for weight/mass/damage/caliber/speed btw. I did a table last time the APDS came up, numbers are from the game files 30mm Performance Discrepancy - #13 by AblativeKitten