Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

Also have fun with that chieftain mk.9 with all the stuff strapped to the turret

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Has anyone noticed that the PASEO of Boxer MGS is different from that on Challenger BN? The PASEO of Boxer MGS is 3-10, while the PASEO of Challenger BN is only 8.

Just saying but there is different versions.
U are aware of that?

So yeah its offcial

KE2020 neo, Dm83, EKE is all the same ammunition

And britainnonly commisiomed it /joined german orders and was not involved in development

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wqFYZFdNOmYa

So I rewrote an error report and was informed by another administrator to “duplicate” it.

Just a report it is the same sights on the Boxer as on the BN.

Nowhere it is named DM83

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We already proved that ke2020 is dm83

And yes a commision from britain they joined the order

KE2020Neo is DM83 based on the fact there already is a DM73 and Neo is a follow up to it (arguing otherwise is just ignorant).

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As a result, Rheinmetall has been commissioned by the Bundeswehr and the British Army to manufacture qualification samples of the new ammunition. A corresponding official qualification contract was signed in September 2020 by the Federal Office for the Equipment, Information Technology and In-Service Support of the Bundeswehr (BAAINBw) and the management of Rheinmetall Waffe Munition GmbH.

KE2020Neo project started back in 2017 (likely earlier, 2017 is simply when it was first reported by an independent source), Germany signed an official qualification contract in 2020, UK “”“joined”“” the program in 2023(?), and the development has finished this year… so ya really shouldn’t be trying to gaslight yourself that UK has had any real input into the projectile given how late they joined in on the fun.

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@DevilO6 And here the british bible guy nicholas Drummond naming it DM83 as well
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https://twitter.com/nicholadrummond/status/1760003304741011719

Well. RIP Challenger 2. Our hope that maybe they would begin to decompress the top tier MBTs a little and maybe place a larger gap between the Challenger 2 and the meta tanks like the 2A7V has been squashed. I guess its back to playing 10.3 for a while yet

I agree with him on CR3 with the minor derivation that the CR2E hull should be modified slightly in frontal layout to reflect a more modern armour style, I think that would be very cool and really rejuvenate CR3, and if needed RR can do some modification to the MTU MT883 (as the parent company now) and re designate it if it makes the UK gov feel better.

Mk.10 might be the play when this goee live.

Aren’t MTU owned by Rolls Royce?

Eh… I’ve never overly enjoyed that range,m though half the vehicels ive yet to unlock. I’ll probably stick with Air and naval for another few months instead. DW and Stormer AD are interesting to me, but no motivation to even try and unlock them at the moment.

10.3 is my usual go to

Ive stayed away from 9.0/9.3 for 2 years now but with this mk10 doesnt have to face the current 10.0s which will be 10.3 when this goes live.

That is true

No 23S8
No BMP-2M
No Turms
No 120S

Etc

This is sounding nice.

Just a shame the rest of the line-up is a bit… Meh

Cheiftain Mk10
Vickers Mk11 (need to research, but I’ve not really heard a good thing or a bad thing about it)
Striker (eh, can be okay)
Warrior (Really quite hate it at the moment to be honest)
Falcon/Marksman/Za-35 (all a bit meh, especially uptiered)

CBA to grind the SA line for the MTTD

Just not a lot there. CAS doesnt get any better. Hunter F1, Scimitar or Buc S1. Usable but not my favourite aircraft to use. Helis, Dont have it But Wessex i’ve heard is kinda bad.