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Would be better to give it DM53A1 or DM63 which would prevent a catastrophic ammo detonation. The Ariete and Leopards can have it too. For the Leopards it won’t make much of a difference because they have blow-out panels anyway, but it would still be nice.
Is this the first thread on the new forums to roll over?
You still would have no armour, limited mobility and if they remove TWS, you’d be very vulnerable to most attacks. Remember, we dont have spall liners. Crew would still all die from one hit basically anywhere. Different ammo is going to change nothing
I think so (Excluding threads like the R&R)
challenger 3 in the game is better is some ways and worse in others than the challenger 2. getting shot in the breach with cr2 will destroy the breach and potentially knock out some crew and destroy some rounds in the back. shooting the breach with cr3 can overpen into the ammo stowage in the back of the turret, and because it lacks spawl liner and blowout pannel (not that a blowout pannel would matter from that pen angle), a round coming from the crew compartment usually means an insta kill; the weakspot is still the breach meaning as survivability goes, its hugely worse in hull down, the only thing its ‘okay’ at.
top that with the engine nerf gaijin put it with, it doesnt deserve the BR it has.
The turret cheek armour is actually better than the 2A4M. It can stop DM53 while the 2A4M can’t.
So aim between the turret cheeks then, guaranteed 1 shot there. Meanwhile I’ve nailed a 2A7V in the gun breach before with a DM53 and not even disabled the gun breach.
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Cool you compared it to the 2A4M and not a tank with good turret armour. Remember this is Britains top tier tank.
As we have already answered, we don’t plan a further one currently. We will be posting individual responses directly to reports.
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The point is that its turret armour is pretty much as good as it gets for a top MBT, besides the breach which is a weakness for any tank.
2A7, T90M, STRV122 M1A2 SEPV3 all have superior turret armour
Any word on those bug reports being fixed then?
like fixing the aluminium backplate for steel?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/POJj1VwLKZRk
That was a bug report in direct response to the last dev blog for the Challenger 2
As you would know, we update reports with their status and outcome when we have any news to share on that front.
To what end though. It can stop DM53 from an L55, that’s enough for the vast majority of circumstances.
The 2A7 has few weaknesses in the frontal ark, the turret has the smallest breach spot the turret cheeks are impenetrable. The hull itself also only has 2 weak spots, the driver port/turret ring (a 50/50 shot)
Or the lower front plate but that wont kill the tank.
The CR1-2-3 all have a weak front plate, a massive breach weak spot and turret cheeks that can be penetrated, from certain angles and a turret roof that is incorrectly modelled so hull down you can just shoot that and take out the turret crew.
These tanks are not even close in terms of performance yet they are at the same BR
Challenger 2 can’t stop 1200mm CE ATGMs like Kornets or Hellfires to it’s turret cheeks. Does it really matter ? Probably not, it’s very uncommon to die that way but it is a possibility. I still hope for the TES ERA CE protection fix.
now that they have reverted the cr3TD to 1200hp, does anyone have the torque specs on the cv12-9a?
They need to rework gear ratios and even try to give the cr1-2-3 some form of regen steering
Not even the wedge of the Leopard 2 can stop that. It will stop Ataka/Vikhr/Refleks/TOW-2 but so can the CR3.