Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

You mean the one that was basically them telling us why they werent going to fix a number of reports and the proceeded to just pretend the other 50 or so reports dont even exist?

To Gaijin, British MBTs are just destined to be shit.

Challenger 1 got a Turret armor rework like 3-4 years ago that lasted like 3 days, and made the thing immune to even 3BM-42 and such at point blank, and since that was just after they introduced the T-72Turms-T, they couldn’t have that.

So it got reverted, and its been stuck with old, Ahistoric Turret armor, even after being moved up a whole BR.

Then you have what happened to the Chieftains, the Mk3 had its engine nerfed into the ground, the MK5 is just a MK3/2. Not a actual MK5 with the LRF and all that. and both of them got moved up in BR for no reason.

And the Mk10 got moved up for GENUINELY no reason other than to screw the British over, it wasn’t even performing well.

Then you have the Centurions, the MK10 is missing half its mantlet armor, and the UFP is actually weaker than the Mk3s due to garbage coding on Normalization and stacked armor plates. And the MK3 should have a like 4 second reload. And the Vertical traverse rates are far slower than they should be…

DO i need to keep going or am i getting my point across?

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Oh yeah, Again, CAN’T FORGET THE BAG CHARGE FUCKERY.

Wow yall are soft.

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Yes there is and has been since Britain made a better tank than Russia.
It was all fun during the lower BRs but higher tier BVVD paymasters do not like it.

It’s just crazy that they added SEAD missiles and gave Typhoon 2 of them…that’s right 2 of them.
I feel sorry for German and Italian mains having to share Typhoon and be at the mercy of Gaijins Anti British agenda.

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@Smin1080p_WT stone declined to answer, are you able to answer?

of course Stona declined to answer, They are genuinely one of the biggest Russia simps on this forum.

I’ve had post after post forcably removed by them.

One of which was one about the Conqureor’s absolutely Ahistorical mantlet.

Where i provided armor schematics and everything showing that its WAY thicker than gaijin has it.

As is any 122 can just mantlet shot you and overpressure you with no issue.

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In fairness if the armoured charge bins get penetrated it is expected that the tank will be destroyed IRL

Do you expect 40mm autocannon rounds to pen the mantlet now…

CR2 is worse than bad

Not really, Bag charges are not Compress Napalm like Gaijin thinks, if one one of two of them are hit you 100% should have a chance to put out the fire.

If a round has succesfully managed to pen IRL, then the target is probably taken out of action, if not hard-killed, certainly soft-killed. The issue is almost certainly that the rounds can pen waaaaaay too easily, and I think we can consider it established fact at this point, that “historical realism” is secondary to the game balance gaijin wants.

If a report, no matter how much evidence is actually provided, goes against that desired “balance” then it will simply be ignored. If community pressure gets too instense, then they will make up excuses “marketing lies, internal testing disagrees, etc etc”

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How is it balanced for a T80 to tank hit after hit to its ammo, yet the Challengers go nuclear if a Single 25mm APDS round barely tickles a single bag charge?

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Simple. One is Russian, the Other isn’t

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I post and will continue to post a Challenger 2 Overhaul post every single Major update.

Fireball has a detail post on just how much the soviet armour is overperforming.

Heck, seen all the backlash about the L27A1 nonsense they dreamed up?

But when they simply dont care what the community thinks… then there isnt really much more you can do

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We can make them care.

We have before.

Have any of you been playing the CR2s since the update

My god they’re in such a sad state right now, outclassed by pretty much it faces

Just a big, slow XP bag for enemies

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With a British ground event vehicle due in the not too distant future. Im gunna hold off on GRB completely until then. Ground grinds break me. So im waiting until then to try things like AJ168 buffs, ALARM, etc and in the process will be required to play some of the CR2s. Maybe then at least the first token or 2 of the event wont be too bad

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Morvan knew its futile to ask for a fair treatment. Its all about deep built game model to make people so frustrated to buy their way for easier grind, EZ mode vehicles…
Wait until you see they’ve done cooking the modules for T-series.

The chance of immediate explosion or fire is still low.

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They feel the same as before. Just now a 30mm/40mm dart can disable your whole tank.
Truly a great change…

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