Hardly anyone plays the CR2s, theyre easier kills for their money making trees, something something poltical comment…
It’s pretty obvious that they simply dont care about making it stronger by any degree
They’d be in a better state if they were simply forgotten about, hopefully their stupid statistic based BR system will send them all down to more competative BRs
Edit - not to say the time and effort some of you fellas are putting into bug reports isnt appreciated, but it seems whenever Gaijin take notice of the tank, it gets worse
Has anyone actually tested the Abrams A3 round on the dev server btw? from what I have seen, it cant actually pierce K5 on the upper front plates, and just does the same thing the A2 round does, and deletes itself after hitting.
If this is the case; then there’s literally no point in trying to get L27A1 anti-ERA properties, because they just don’t exist in game. If the Abrams A3 round cant do it, there’s no way Charm 3 will be able to.
@Smin1080p_WT is there an update on the L27A1 buff? Was the new information accepted, forwarded, denied/closed? Surely they would have said by now. Usually when u make a bug report you get a reply in a few hours so just wondering if theres an update 😀🙏
The developers are still investigating, however its looking likely that its not sufficient.
After they conducted some internal testing, even if the T-80U’s ERA plates were removed, CHARM-3 wouldn’t be able to penetrate either the turret or the upper hull plate due to the ERA caps themselves and their separation from the main armor alone. So it casts some doubt on some of the wording in that report and how directly it applies to testing or just intended specs.
Currently there are a lack of any evidence or documents confirming the implementation of the capabilities currently. So the devs are still seeking more information.
Wait so you and the devs honestly believe that Challenger 2 can’t penetrate like 80% of a T80 when crews are told to fire center mass even without the ERA. This is a joke right?
Thats not quite correct. The devs are saying the document still lacks a lot of spesifics and isn’t very clear in some parts and has also separately been tested against the tank without at those spesific locations and still cant pen those spots. So due to the lack of clear information coupled with the currently known performance, it cant move forward without new information.
The fact that in-game L27A1 can’t pen a T-80U without ERA, while in real life it’s well documented that it can defeat a T-80U with KE-sensitive ERA.
Or the fact that the devs think these in-game tests somehow supercede or dispute the documented real life performance, instead of it being a clear wake up call that there are currently some huge discrepancies with the way certain things are modelled in-game vs their real life performance.
Playing devil’s advocate - but surely the same burden of proof would apply to ANY top tier shell created in the past 20-30 years.
Russia has not for example - test-fired a 3BM60 against a Challenger 2 with TES - for example.
French top tier rounds haven’t been test-fired vs. Japanese Type 90s.
Chinese top tier rounds - goodness knows? They’re not exactly going to share that info.
The basic issue is that we have a round L27A1 in the game that is regarded as being designed to defeat a specific target (T-80U with K-5). The docs are specific as to the type of T-80 (U) - it isn’t often that the target for a type of munition is so clearly and distinctly spelled out. What few unclassified docs we have would indicate that it does so since it meets the requirements as set out.
You either work on the ‘benefit of the doubt’ principle - e.g. the most authoratitive docs would indicate it so we’ll work on the assumption they’re right. OR you go into the messy realms of the game devs (game devs, not ballistics experts) guest-imating. With all of the potential for cries of foul therein.
Where do you draw the line? Do you see why it can be seen to be not even-handed in the approach to some trees rather than others?
I’m putting this openly rather than as a PM because I’m sure others will chip in with their 2p.
