One vid of the interior. That is what I could capture, need to edit it though. I only know what I said because I remember it very well. Can maybe have it on Sunday along with the forum
I’ve also been wondering about something for a while now: is the Olifant Mk2’s armor any good? I ask because it’s quite thick, but it offers very little protection against KE bullets, while its protection against CE bullets isn’t exactly spectacular either.
I have wondered the same. I was testing earlier with T-72M1 HEAT and even the thickest parts of the turret armour it would pen most of the time. Part of this I believe is Gaijin’s nonsense about nerfing NATO breeches which for some fucking reason is also on the Mk.2. IRL all the South African Army will tell you is that it can stop HEAT rounds fired from a T-72, you will see with the earlier T-72 HEAT rounds that it’ll go clean through it on the flat part of the front.
in WT the armour is stupidly nerfed but the tank makes up for it at 9.3 with somewhat standard mobility and great thermals even for Top Tier, with only the zoom letting it down from being a good long range sniper
I really don’t expect anything good from the game anymore. Among the obvious errors are the armor models, and to top it all off, the game has such random penetration and damage that it’s a disaster. The only good thing about it is that, unlike other games, you no longer need to try to play well or worry about your K/D ratio, because it hardly indicates anything anymore.
PS: I’m also interested in the actual performance of TTD, since after all it’s a 1992 design.
Technically even before then but shown to the public in '92. I can recommend Dewald Venter’s book on South African Armour, if you can’t or don’t want to buy it, I will make a forum regarding technical data and stuff and I will also talk about inaccuracies and how bad they are proportionately with similar competition
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Anyone now thinking that they didn’t correct the Chally 2 TES and OES kits to stop 30mm apds because they knew the terminator was coming, I now am.
The armour is STANAG level 5, which is tested using 25 mm APDS not 30 mm APDS.
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please mention the fact that ive made a bug report on it missing its spall liners and it still doesnt have them after the report has been accepted for 2 years lmao
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Didn’t know there were reports for it, but I have video evidence of the inside with the white and blue colour spall liner
Which Pacific armour are you on about if its TES it has 3 layers which have difficulty protection levels ??
the ASPRO itself is Level 5 (i think gaijin includes the backplate toward the level 5 protection)
Stanag level 6 (plus a fair bit of change) when you include the hull side armour of the chally too,
STANAG level 5 is 25mm APDS and APFSDS, while STANAG Level 6 is 30mm APFSDS
STANAG level 5 Achieved by ASPRO + Backplate
(25mm PMB090 APFSDS 30 degrees @ 500m)
STANAG Level 6 Achieved with the ASPRO + Hull armour
(30mm MK258 APFSDS 30 degrees @ 500m)
I’ll also make it known, it does actually protect against the BMPT 30mm APDS in Stanag 4569 test conditions (500m, 30 degrees), the main issue is that it get’s shot off as it doesn’t remain inert after multiple shots
(30mm 2A42 APDS @ 30 degrees @ 500m)
If you were asking for more protection, its aehistorical, it meets claimed protection (including backplate, wether it should or not it a different matter), but the whole unit itself provides Level 5.
you’d want to move to make gaijin have it remain inert and not fall off to provide what appears to be your intended outcome (sustained protection against 30mm APDS)
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The KE protection was never the issue (apart for gaijin insisting on making everything fall off for no reason, even the LFP dorchester can fall off somehow, and so can the entire backplate for the ERA (even if the ERA hasn’t fallen off yet, leaving it levitating!) it’s absurd.), it’s that a block of that size has worse chemical protection than relikt.
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I should have added that I was joking when I said this. No I don’t actually believe that Gajin purposefully nerfed and then ignored bug reports for years just so the BMPT could kill an underperforming top tier vehicle easier. They’re not that clever.
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Seeing this talk that I don’t feel like trying to understand. So I will just ask.
What Russian ERA is most like what the CR2 has on armour packages, by this I mean:
- What Russian ERA works closest in principle
- How much of this Russian ERA is equal to one block of ASPRO and Dorchester 2F
- What is the most similar performance ERA from Russia to ASPRO in terms of ERA size and protection level for how well they are modelled in-game.
P.S. If you saw it saying I was commenting for like 2 or 3 hours, I was AFK cleaning the gutters of my house for my parents
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please make a forum post about the TTD
i kinda still feel like aspro is being misinterpreted by the devs, the aspro-hmt era blocks are advertised in theirself stanag 5, while still having the composite block behind + the baseplate in the actual TES version
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I believe this has been a lasting issue with the devs, they believe the entire setup is STANAG 5 which is honestly kind of hilarious
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What version does the OES have? I always see people saying it should be better but idk how much
I did quite well with it stock, mines still doesn’t have half the mods, ERA included.
What i find is folks who complain tend to just shoot the UFP and then moan about it.