Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

I could drive a real Challenger 2 to Gaijin’s headquarters and I imagine they’d still deny the thickness of that plate

I really wonder who they employ as bug report managers sometimes…

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They’re volunteers rather than employees iirc, chances are they have a process/procedure map where one of the steps is smth like “if the report is about a vehicle’s accuracy and has no appropriate sources, paste in this message and close it”

I understand sources for things like engine power etc… but this is just common sense and I provided very clear photographs of it

Even the 1314 horsepower bug report took 3 attempts to get passed, with primary sources, their consistency is just awful

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This is where the issue arises, sometimes the ROMOR nose add-on has a riser plate on the top that the lights are mounted to (as seen on the DL2E in WT). This plate seems to serve the same purpose, but additionally mounts the camera - I don’t think I’ve seen any photos of the driving camera mounted without that plate being present, excluding the CR2E that had a cutout in the UFP for one.

That is to say it could easily be argued that this newer plate is hollow and acts as a riser for the camera and lights, maybe providing some protection for wiring? At which point you’re going more on vibes, unless you have those written sources you mentioned to hand.

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The issue arises when you don’t have a thing called “common sense” which is very rare to find nowdays

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I addressed that in my report.

I showed them that the Challenger 2 (2F) has a different riser plate that is actually spaced and empty beneath. Ingame, the Challenger 2 (2F) has the camera mounted onto that spaced riser plate, kind of going against the argument that the new plate was added to protect wiring.

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The Black Night also has a camera fitted without the large solid (or hollow if you believe gaijin) plate.

The plate is far too large to be just for protecting wiring, as we can already see the wiring for the camera is very compact.

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Fireball has actually already reported this issue, which was accepted 2 years ago, my report just provides newer photos from when the CR2 was recently deployed to Estonia that clearly shows the new plate. He references an actual source that a ~50mm addon armour plate was added during Desert Storm (I believe) to the CR1, and later to the CR2 but I dont have access to it.

I hope I addressed what you said lol

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That one is a Dorcehster Level 2E, not 2F

The 2F model (at least in WT mobile) has the spaced plate + camera.

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It’s harder to see in normal WT, but so does the 2F in game.

No, this thing, this is a 2E


Here is a 2F early, but without the camera
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I understand, my point is that gaijin seems to think the camera is mounted onto the spaced plate on the 2F late, which would go against the argument that it is made sealed and therefore appears solid on later variants purely to protect the camera wiring.

Each buff makes the CR2 good and Russians don’t like British tanks. CR2 is seen as meme, depsite being better than anything the Rusfed has in service and since it was used by a certain nation it has only accelerated that mind set.

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no you can’t say that! TWO have been destroyed in the span of almost 3 years, it’s awful!

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With the ROSY being added to the game, i did a little thing.
[DEV] Challenger 2 missing ROSY smoke protection system

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For BN it may be be a downgrade, as the current configuration provides a smoke screen dome that allows the tank to hide as quickly as possible.
In general, both 2E and BN are departing from the “canonical configuration,” where we are stepping on the thin ice of others, including soviets, who may want to play this game adding available options to everything they are available for.

This can be applied as an upgrade to basic units, but it is questionable for prototypes, as it creates non-existent iteration of this prototypes.

But ROSY is also can make a smoke screen dome. Because it has 4 launchers on every turret corner. So that it covers 360° as BN smoke grenades

I put the BN and 2E there, but i doubt they will get it due to ther special status. For the rest of the challengers, it would bring the count of smokes to 50, 30 at the front and 20 at the back, lining them up closer to the BN with the 360, but one more pop at the front.

Russians I’ve met are indifferent to British tanks mate.

The CR2 in game is laughable sometimes but you bouncing around talking total nonsense like this just makes both Brits and Brit mains look like tubes.

The CR2 in game once it gets more and more of it’s fixes, which it quite clearly is getting.
Will end up as one of the better mbts in game.

The mobility changes are a massive step in the right direction, combine that with slated ammo rack changes it’ll be better again.

It also needs some changes to the model which are all reported and as far as i am aware accepted.

No one bar british playerd a select few others wanna see the cr2 actually like it’s supposed ro be.

It’s getting fixes, at the rate of about 1 a year

The lfp spall liner report has been out for literally years now, and despite having clear photographic proof it’s never been fixed.

Same with the ready rack, side hull spall liners, roof composite, applique UFP armour… etc

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Had a few this year…

Literally years ? The spall liners only got added last year.

Meanwhile there are reports for the likes of chieftain for literally longer than I’ve played the game.

😂

The spall liners are added or next to he addedz and it had a mobility buff?

The tanks aren’t bad or great extemely middling.

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