There is a debate to be had though that they could just get rid of the current second stage.
Whilst strictly speaking the second stage should only be ammo in the hull, this makes up a minority of shells and probably wouldnt be that noticable.
Though a mechanic like lap-loading would need to be rolled out to everyone and it would need proper implementation, though not sure why the game couldnt handle more than 2 ammo stages
I was just watching Toomanysecrets video on the OES for fun and noticed he said that he said the OES has an upgraded sight system, so that made me think:
What makes the OES a different upgrade from all the addon armour for the regular CR2 seen on the 2F and TES in-game?
Is there a new sight system with better thermals but more importantly better zoom like 11.5x or 13.5x zoom like on the CR2 (2024) or Japanese vehicles? I really want a better zoom on the optics.
Does the commander get a proper Hunter-Killer sight that allows him to see without eyeballing visible light?
in-game? to my knowledge the only difference is that the RCWS gets a .50 instead of a .30
In the game, the only differences are that the EOS has a worse ERA on the sides of the hull (I don’t know why), the 7.62mm cannon is replaced by the 12.7mm cannon on the roof, and that on the sides of the turret above the NERA it has a structural steel plate (I don’t know why).
It’s the same as of a few months ago, they just forgot to change the stats in X-ray lol.
The original reason for the ERA being different was, quote from a bug report response, “it’s not the same ERA” (no evidence provided)
That isn’t even modelled
The Enforcer that the Challenger 2 uses can use weapons from a 7.62mm GPMG to a M2HB or the common 40mm AGL that the troops might use. The GPMG (7.62mm) is used for slightly easier logistics with the L94A1
Wow, it actually does something. I have never noticed while playing it. It’s almost like all the addon armour is just dead weight…
It’s because while the addon armour semi-works, the actual internal composite doesn’t so they can just centre mass you and ignore the armour entirely.
Also it does nothing v kinetic.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/vdmLdWCZb5KN
I’ve created a new report for the Challenger 2’s OES/TES applique addons being far too thin.
If anyone has any more good close ups of the addons, especially with the lower front plate block fitted please send them as I will add them.
It should be a solid block, rather than just 25mm structural steel as it is ingame.
Cheers :)
should it even be structural steel?
No, it shouldn’t, thats part of the report
If you look at it, there are no parts (that I can see at least) that indicate it has any connection to the mounting of the lower front plate block.
Real life photos clearly show that the LFP block is held on by those two big pins (and likely some other stuff on the LFP).
So it must be an applique armour block, being either RHA or HHA, it has no other obvious purpose. I believe there are written sources that indicate that it is addon armour, but this should be enough.
Typical.
Man if they ever add the ch3 imagine trying to bug report the epsom armour lol
And obviously the common sense statement of “why on earth would the appliqué protection be structural steel” also doesn’t work… we can get back to them when the MoD releases an official statement saying appliqué protection is for protection I suppose.
they’re making Chieftain 3???
Where’s the Chieftain 2?
You’ll find thats called Challenger 1
