I’m saying CR2 armour isn’t as bad as folks make it out to be.
The ariete has no armour at all xd I need ot get them soon as well but I can’t be bothered with it right now.
The CR2 lacks in some areas, penetration is one. However it’s not some toothless tank as is made out by most.
CR2 literally has turret cheeks, that is it can we please stop this notion of armour.
The breach is destroyed if you shoot anywhere near it. Top of the TOGS box that’s your breach out. But shoot a 2A7 slightly at the top or a miss that T-90 breach by a micron and zero effect
Higher mobility will help but it wont change how the CR2 is played and that is purely as support because if you are on your own you are dead to everything.
CR2 needs it’s composite block for the lower glacis, it needs it’s ready rack increased and still then it will be one of the worst tanks at top tier.
All top tier tanks only have “turret cheeks”, every single one has a weak mantlet
Other top tier tanks have hull armour and mantlet armour CR2 does not
And if they miss the mantlet the round will go straight through the angled roof killing the turret crew.
no other tank has that weakness with the M1 bouncing a shot like that and the T series tanks absorbing it or bouncing it.
The ufp is better than most the other mbts bar T series and the leopard 2a7 / swede one.
The actual ufp is pretty solid, the issue is tbe LFP isn’t great.
You’re stating it has worse armour than the 2a4 which is just false as hell mate.
Didn’t happen to me a couple nights ago man
Have you use the T90? The breach isn’t a small thing to hit at all. every single top tier has roughly comparable breach sizes.
Difference is things like abrams have composites within it.
Seriously? You only die to everything if you slam it into an open field and get pelted, if you position right, which you can with any / all top tiers it’s extremely mid.
It can sometimes take whole flanks, especially the likes of BN or 2E which are pretty nicely upgraded over the CR2 standards like the 2F.
It’s literally middle of the pack rn.
Most top tiers are pretty well balanced.
The merkava MK4 for some odd reason just got absolutely buried in nerfs, think it got 2 or 3 nerfs back to back. You’ve got the ariete which is essentially useless and didn’t even warrant 12.7.
The Oplot I stopped working towards because between the glaring holes in its armour and its round, it just isn’t really worth the hassle in getting.
Hence why there are barely any Oplots rolling around at top tier.
CR2 sits comfortably in the middle of the top tier tanks, yes it should get its correct armour all round, not just additional composite block.
However, due to some absolute C***womble it cannot get anywhere near its real numerical data as then Gaijin are liable for many lawsuits etc from the MOD.
It’s speculated to have about half its IRL armour values if we go by the old leaked armour documents. It cannot get them now at all due to said leak.
What MBT has mantlet armour ? it is literally designed into almost every MBT as a weak point
only the 2A7 and 122 have effective hull armour.
All T series tanks have an UFP, so does CR2 and abrams. with massive weak points.
Do not try and tell me the T90 or T80 don’t have huge frontal weak points.
You can fire through the roof of
All of which you can kill the crew from hitting them with a dart in the roof. Only tanks with absolute flat roofs will stop it happening.
See above mentioned list.
Use them I dare you to.
Having used them extensively what I realise is. Too many people shoot the UFP rather than aim
Take the half second if that to aim down or into the breach and you will win the majority of engagements. Its why my M1A2 has a near 2.0 KD and I use it in a 13.0 lineup.
Stop bringing up T series tanks just because you can’t fight em.
@Smin1080p_WT Please can we have the gun mantlet lowered, seeing it not flush with the turret is driving me nuts.
Need to research this, but the batteries are clearly shown in parallel pairs and power output on one side would not be affected by loss of the others. In addition, there are turret batteries and probably a battery override function in which the power routing of hull, turret, and radio batteries can be swapped in order to keep the tank fighting.
At last, we can get a Royal Tank Regiment “Chinese Eyes” decal
Yours for just 50 player kills in British ground this month
You know looking at how badly the visual model has aged for Challenger 2 I think it should be in the list to get a complete remodel like the Tiger 2s have just got.
Currently I have this list of issues from outstanding bug reports:
This is all without mentioning the damage model changes which should happen.
Some of these issues are very minor but they all add up to it being outdated when we know Gaijin could do it better. To top it all off I don’t think the camouflages look very good either, a lot of the skins are weathered in ways that the Challengers don’t look like irl.
Would look and feel quite nice if done properly but for some reason I doubt they would do it to the same level as they should be doing
CR2 power updates are nice, sadly turning still kills it we really do need a rework on energy lost while turning.
Not like players already found the solution lol
Reduce the Braking force!
(there might be just be that report coming up soon)
Thw code for the swedish elde 98 can be used for regenerative steering.
Its completly community coded for leos, chsllengers and co and works fabulous
oh i know that, regen steering is unfinished though considering it gives you more power when steering which is ludicrous, and radii are also tending toward being too large, especially at lower gears
you’d also need the ability to kick the gears down at will (in auto mode) returned as to be able to reduce your turning circle at will
Clutch braking is the only method tanks use currently, Double diff steering was exclusively for the Elde as of the time being,
ik this is a really minor thing, but the outer ring of the CR2 sight shows the FoV at max zoom, so in-game it should function as an option for the “Field of View” customisation… would this be something that could be bug reported? would be nice to have it function properly
why is the challenger so bad in game
Gaijins bad modeling coupled with a gamemode & maps that favours tanks with an offensive doctrine. Chally 2s are best suited in hulldown positions
I dont understand gaijins mentality, the challenger 2 has horrible armor all-round, doesnt have spall liners on the sides of the hull which makes no sense, the reload is alr, the “top” shell is one of the worst if I remember, the russian one has similar pen but the shell mass is much higher and results in better post pen, this tank is overall one of the worst, would be the worst if ariete isnt included.