Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

Time to organize a movement where all CR2 players over a course of a month, spawn in a CR2 and J out and ODL every match.

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they need to either lower its BR

neither of which will be done.

Defeatist attitude, get out there and start holding W into the enemy without fighting back to forcefully lower those performance metrics.

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Sorry missed that message but yes

Its just you see too many people using the “rules for thee but not for me” mindset of asking for every nations vehicles for themselves and getting angry when other nations ask for someone elses vehicles (this happens on all sides, German, British, Japanese, American etc.)

I personally think, if a nation has a capability gap, has strong history with or if a vehicle is interesting, then it should be added, if the Cally 130 doesnt fit any of those then it shoudlnt really be added, lest it cause controversy, but gaijin doesnt really care about that as we have seen time and time again

hows the armor performance between ariete and chally?
the chally 3 only has 20mm more pen as an 11.3 ariete
so that could be reasonable depending on the other stats

oh totaly agree, and i am not denying the chally130 history to UK either, it totaly exists
but for the rules as of rioght now its irrelevant. Just like KF41, AMX13 105, or g/91 3 as example, still not added to the other antions either

I mean imo all 3 of those should be in their own respective trees, maybe with the exception of the KF41 as the Puma S1 would be very similar and is actually used by the brundeswer, at least the Challenger 130 doesnt have an in service alternative in either nation

that would be ignoring the history of the vehicle once again as well
And while similar they still are totaly different
Puma uses a softkill protection
while kf41 uses a hard kill protection (ignoring that the feature sucks in game) Generaly until the 2a7a1 /2a8 germany has no hardkill aps options, it is a neat feature anticipated by the players even if its gimmicky

thats why I said maybe though

It’d be interesting to have in the German tree, but Gaijin will try to keep some sort of Interesting thing for the Hungarian line, especially considering it was almost as disappointing as BeNeLux (or worse in the case of the Air Line)

u say that like there is any real intresting subtree, the only unique ones is SA… but most uk players aint happy with it either

All other subtrees are all mostly copy paste

I mean Im happy with it, So far only 2 C&P vehicles, one of which was technically Exclusive for a while, but considering Britain has enough of its own vehicles to make at least 9.5 Lines in air and far more than 5 in ground is bittersweet

Although especially in air South africa has a good chance to add some spice to the tree, and just help thicken up some areas with things like Cheetahs, Mirages and Obviously the Gripen

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I Agree! (Shameless plug time)

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Dear god did this devolve into another god damn 130 Chally debate again… bloody happens ever so often it seems…

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Damn im suprised this is alread at 200+ but also, when challenger 2 fix?

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If Gaijin is seemingly allergic to providing a good faith CR2 buff then why should we waste our time going through the proper channels of bug reports and suggestions?

If Gaijin isnt going to do anything then its time to weaponize the only thing Gaijin will listen to, their precious stats.

everyone just go in the cr2 and drives around till you get killed. surley they take notice if it has a 0.2kd

May as well weaponise their own pig headedness against them.

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Listen @x_Shini @lxtav and everyone else:

You’re all overthinking it. If Gaijin never adds the Chally 130, there’s literally no point in arguing over which country it goes to.

:thunk:

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You say that, it has been done before flashbacks to the CL.13 Mk.4 incident