It is true. Kh38’s etc got buff from 1000 to 1500. So now no trophy aps or any aps will stop it other than iron fist on challenger 2 now
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I mean, did it make sense that such APS were capable of stopping 500kg bombs falling at Mach 1 and whatever the KH38 weighs at Mach 2 ?
Maybe they could cause premature detonation, but there’s still the shear kinetic energy going on, and co differing such APS can at most destabilize APFSDS, it was always weird to see them stopping high caliber bombs just like that
I agree but when it could and no longer can it’s a significant nerf.
BN is a bit of a struggle bus being protected from CAS was nice…it was only 4 shots mind.
Wait till Germany get the trophy system with reloaders.
Given the APS is the only justifcation for the BN to even be close to 12.0. If it is even worthy of being 12.0 to begin with. The APS no longer being effective against the primary CAS weapon that usually gets used at top tier, renders the entire point of the BN being 12.0 entirely mute.
I can’t prove anything, but dying to a recoilless rifle at 200m with iron fist present just feels wrong
lot depends on the angle of the incoming munition, and a couple more mechanics nuances and bugs. For example, it doesn’t trigger if the munition lands in certain areas of the engine
I’ve been closely monitoring the performance of APS on BN since its release.
No new anomalies have appeared yet.
If we had more big maps in rotation, BN would be more than worthy of 12.0. However, its effectiveness varies greatly depending on the type of battlefield.
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Depends on range the missile was released and what speed it’s travelling if its over the 1600ms-1 threshold it will not be intercepted.
Just have to remember CR2 BN is just a CR2 with an APS system
and the 2E is just a CR2 with a better engine.
If the APS is invalidated then the BN is not top tier material.
I mean the BN does also get the improved TOGS processor for g3 and the (albeit now almost useless because its 8x locked) gen3 cdr sight
But the better optics (and no APS) imo is just enough justification, maybe for it to be 11.7 instead of 11.3 where the base CR2 should be
Better thermals…Would trade it all for realistic armour, fire power and an ounce of survivability.
It seems autoloaders are eating rounds again and the CR2 just has no lethality.
Britains best tank is essentially like Germany just having a Leopard 2A4 with an APS system
And the TES, why is it 11.7 when all its add is extra weight.
Becauses its ERA is too OP. It can just about protect the tank from a hand grenade, it would be unfair for it to be any lower
/s
Been over pressured by missiles hitting it… just makes me sad :(
*With APS, all-round smoke screen, LWR, and 3rd gen thermals.
Not only that. Let’s say there’s another nuance: APS only intercepts things on the collision course with a unit (The exception in that mechanic is roof-piercing rockets). In other words, if the missile hits the ground with enough splash, it will result in death. Additionally, if the missile set a collision course with a unit at the very last moment, after the point where it should have been intercepted, APS will not be able to intercept it.
Firstly, the Challengers have NOT YET been buffed ingame, this is just a video on the bug report. Don’t get your hopes up too high just yet :)
Zenturion, a pretty well known WT youtuber has made a short video about the report to get the Challengers buffed.
He modified the Challenger to give it the buffed (correct) 1314 horsepower and tested the performance, as you’ll see, the difference is pretty huge compared to the current Challenger 2. It increased acceleration by up to 25%, bringing the Challenger 3TD up to almost Leopard 2 levels of acceleration.
If this actually makes it to the game, it would be a really big buff from his testing.
I’m happy to see he’s made this as it should hopefully bring a lot of attention to the issue, and hopefully gaijin pay attention :)
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Fixed in 2030
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Please Gaijin…
Be so nice if this was implemented, the leclerc’s vs challenger 2 drag race video might actually be more accurate in game XD