Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

Yeah.

  • Slowest tank at top tier
  • Weakest shell at top tier ( bar 1 maybe 2 exception, like I think DM43 is slightly weaker)
  • Weakest sustained fire rate
  • Pretty low down the list when it comes to protection/survivability (and TES upgrade is probably not worth it for the amount of protection it provides)

There really isnt much going for us currently bar some half decent optics.

The TES should be a top tier Tortoise re-incarnated, with the CE protection being roughly triple what it is currently and should be far more resistant to auto-canon fire. Such a shame.

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Shame really, i spent all that time spading it just to stop playing it after i got over pressured by a bmp 2m missile over pressuring me after hitting me in the side at an almost 90 degree angle on the NERA… Reminds me of when the ROMAs ERA used to over pressure itself lol.

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Yeah. I put in a load of time and effort to reach top tier because the CR2s look amazing and I also hoped that finally getting to top tier would end the constant feeling of always being uptiered and thus outclassed… but nope. Even in a 12.0 CR2. I feel like every match is a full uptier

I guess we are at the mercy of when we get the CR3(P) and what Gaijin allows it to have.

Thats how other games have modelled it even Squad but no Gaijin think CR2 is crap and should die to 30mm autocannon fire. CR2 TES could have been like Britains T-90M but then the Russians wouldnt like that. And that is a problem players will bug report other nations vehicles to get them crapped on.

I dont think it’s an exaggeration to say in a decompressed world with no buffs CR2 in game is the worst high tier tank.

To be fair, the Russian tanks all reload slower than the Chally 2 even when it runs out of first stage ammo

Thought they were 6.5 seconds and the CR2 second stage was 7.1

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T-80s are 6.5 seconds (except for the T-80B) all others are 7.1 seconds.

Yes and that T-80BVM has far superior gun handling to the CR2 it can get rounds on target faster it also has a superior dart and armour.

Playing slower is a nice palate cleanser but not a first choice

The OTHER half of the time, when the first shot isn’t enough. It matters.
Since 50% isn’t a minority.
It matters.

Also, ur acc probably gonna get nuked… u did something bad…

If you survive the first hit in the CR2, either the person shooting you was a bad shot or you need to go buy a lottery ticket

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It’s not that bad either lol.
Either way, my argument was sound

That’s the case for all top tier tanks

Wow, i dont even know what rule ive broken but reporting me is just sad man… You’ve st a low bar for yourself.

Fyi i dont know who reported u but i know what rule u broke.
Ironically who ever did report u may have saved ur acc.

Fair, my only assumption would be that your not meant to share your account. But why should that matter? Its my account and its not like my friend is going to do much, We live in the same house lol.

And what do you mean saved my account? Not sure how that would work.

Sharing is against ToS, results in a account ban.

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I really hope gaijin adds the applique armour to the Challenger 2’s eventually, it would be enough to stop all Russian rounds currently ingame (as well as other rounds with below 600mm pen)

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Because of the report. The message got hidden.
Since it was the first report. Its handled by the system and probably wouldnt result in a mod checking ur comment.
Which also wouldve kept the contents hidden from others.
But now youve practically said it yourself again…
I would tread lightly.
Probably wouldnt share accounts if i were u.

Elelelele <— random crap for an unknown reason.

That thing is actually part for bind dorchester applique armor on LFP, and actually in game with Challenger 2 2F/TES/OES with structual steel.

But more specifically the Challengers. If you look at videos and even use XM885, you will consistently 1 or 2 shot Challengers’ ammo bags but in Russian tanks, the charge bags will either disappear or will take little damage and not blow up the tank. If the CR1s and CR2s got Russian ammo damage models, they would be some of the best tanks in-game

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