Better round and armour layout, when CR2 had a 4.5 second reload and the rest had 6-7 it felt like an advantage now so many tanks have a 5 second ish reload and the advantage CR2 had is completly mitigated.
It is like when they Arriete was crap but had the best round it was balanced.
You want to balance the game you remove the best shells from the best vehicles.
These are two different things.
Ingame we have the 25mm plate which is raised from the hull armour and isn’t intended to act as a armour.
In the picture that is a 50-60mm solid plate which is directly fixed onto the armour to act as applique armour.
I’m pretty sure the Chally 2 has never had a 4.5 second reload ingame
What he’s saying is that it had an advantage of reload but now that is a downside because many also have it now
It was one of the fastest for a long time but it was 4 rounds. Gaijin wont let CR2 or British tanks to “lap load”
They do that and well have 2-3 second reloads on all mbts from the centurion onwards. So thatll be the VERY last thing they ever add.
Why model superior training and technique…
Or even design and capability * looks at all Harriers and all South African vehicles *
Still love how all 76mm guns have the same reload of the firefly, a tank notoriously known for its cramped turret. Meaning the 76mm rooikat has a slower reload than most 105s at the br with the damage of the 30mm apds found on the bmp. Ive seen my dart glide through a weisel without doing anything but turning the driver orange.
The Otomatic fked the Rooikat Mk1 the 76mm Dart was too strong and good at killing tanks so they nerfed it and it in turn crapped on the 76mm dart for other vehicles. Unfortunately the rapid for for the Oto didnt impact it too much but the shot every 7 seconds Rooikat it really does.
Oto wasnt even that bad, 11 rounds is nothing. Its sap was what you were using 9 out of 10 times to kill a tank. But gaijin saw the stats and assumed it was the dart. But yeah, rooikat suffers from it. But the pen was never really the problem, its the damage… or more like the non existent damage.
And how one of the most spacious tanks of modern design fires a 105 1.5x slower than a Leopard 2 with a much heavier 120mm gun and round storage that makes it much harder to move as fast.
The rounds of the 17pdr were ridiculously large even for modern standards and gave the rounds huge velocity, just look at the APDS speeds but a pair of loaders even in the A30 wouldn’t be able to out reload a Rooikat
Edit: I made this comment 7 hours ago but only now actually loaded
It’s important to keep in mind that Gaijin uses reload time as another way to balance, since they don’t care about realism, so they use this kind of garbage to balance.
I prefer a Firefly firing at the speed it did in reality, although it’s slower, yes, but I also want the 17-pdr’s APCBC to do tremendous damage (like in reality), and for all tanks to have their enemy crew members stunned for a few seconds when they receive a penetration. It’s nothing short of mind-boggling that some crew members don’t even flinch after a bullet enters the tank.
The Challenger 2 OES still only has 400mm of CE armor on the armor plates.
I’ve said it a thousand times, Gaijin has no idea how to model NERA and Western armor plates, and for an armor plate that functions like the Kontakt 5, the Brenus is modeled as a mediocre armor plate.
Then we have the Challenger 2 with added armor just to add weight, apart from the C1A2 Mexas which is like taking a Leopard 1 and putting weights on it without any protection.
yeah it looks like the add-on blocks give ~500mm CE, not sure if angle matters for ERA i have to admit.
In principle, yes. A few days ago, there was a post mentioning that the Brenus’s ERA armor in the game stopped around 800 to 1000mm of HE. I checked it and it was true. All ERAs stop more depending on the angle at which the HEAT hits. For example, Kontakt 1 is a brick with a flat metal and explosive plate inside, and in front of that, there’s another identical plate but with a slight incline to give it more resistance. That’s why Contact 1 was better than the Israeli Blazer, since the Blazer only had a single internal metal and explosive plate. Back to the Challenger 2 topic, it’s funny how the three models with added armor have practically the same armor, with the only difference being that they weigh more and more while having the same protection, when for example the armor of the TES and EOS should have much more protection against CE and around 100mm against KE, since it has to provide protection against the 30mm NATO APDS-FS, apart from the fact that it would not be lost in an impact, since it is a mix between NERA and ERA, interspersing layers of connespacio, that’s why those brick models are quite big and heavy.
Gaijin model russian era to always give its angled performance, no matter if you hit them straight on as it shouldn’t provide any protection to ke apart from its own thickness in rha. While nato era is modelled to provide the protection as if it was hit flat on.
This alone shows how biased they are in the era department. Its why russian era overperforms so much, they can be shot perpendicular and still provide 120mm of ke. Its also why its almost impossible to pen t80s and such when they are angled down, the era doesnt get any less effective.
also Russian ERA is often fully modelled with the interior plates and backing plates etc. the BVM is a good example of that. where NATO ERA is just…
-B L O C K-
If the interior plates were actually modelled, and allowed angled performance, it would be much better…
Its a joke they still haven’t corrected all of challenger 2 add-on armour kits. I remember the massive bug report a team of us did on the TES and OES add-on armour kit. And they just rejected it and not only that they changed its 40/80mm RHA back plate to aluminium ??
I honestly could go into some much details but I’m about to go see megan 2.0 here lol !!
The aluminium was the best bit. We showed them that it would be a ton or two lighter if it was and yet they still went through with it…
Im going to Bovington soon to see the fv4005 so i may bring a magnet with me.