Here is the proposed change, This will not be a buff but likely just enough of a reduction in spalling or penetration to stop the Big 3 crying about the Fox.
Note the Warrior and Falcon use the same 30mm APDS, these could impact them too.
Failing that we could see the Fox at 8.0+
And Falcon and AMX 30 DCA
Don’t make me wheel out the Richard Hammond sketch again on Top Gear
“not fit for Public Consumption”
“what about Private Consumption?”
😐
It’s not great tbh. Just an all around nerf. I can’t remember where I saw it so take it with a grain of salt, but apparently it’s “significant”
Im guessing It will make it on par with other rounds of a similar type:
Being Britain, probably the weakest of the 4 examples in that graph. So Id guess maybe 70-75mm of pen? below 1000m but a buff above 1000m
iirc on paper it should be a little better. Almost the same weight as 3UBR8, and almost same speed as the ZBD04A APDS, but probably not quite. Can’t wait for T-54/5s to become more of a pain in the ass.
On paper and Gaijin, rarely agree unfortunately
That’s going by their own numbers for weight/mass/damage/caliber/speed btw. I did a table last time the APDS came up, numbers are from the game files 30mm Performance Discrepancy - #13 by AblativeKitten
Sadly the majority of the player base think the Fox is egregious and overpowered. Nulifying its ability to flank and kill anything rectifies this.
The Falcon is also still highlighted as an issue.
Lowering the Falcon/Warrior and Fox penetrative and post penetrative effects invalidate it. What I dont understand is why it’s always British vehicles that have to be brought to heel. If you are losing to a Falcon or Fox consistently that is down to player competency
cant wait for the fox to be put at the same br as the pt 76 57…
“i was goin on my tiger 2/is 3 drinking beer and when i was drinking beer a fox flanked me causing me to spill my beer. why does britain have a car like that its not fair they should be my food”
"British vehicles only deserve to be food"And food can’t resist the fate of being eaten. 😋
I mean, I quote “the statistics are not entirely clear” (regarding the Tornado GR.1 getting stomped on release day)
But suddenly the moment it’s a vehicle that’s kinda good the statistics are crystal clear, and the “efficiency of the vehicle is very high”
(Satire but still making a serious point)
Far more tragically the “majority” of the playerbase (aka some screeching brat that is a blatant Russian main and has a clear interest in nerfing the Fox into the ground, plus a couple of Tiger II players who haven’t grasped what flanking is) is f*cking wrong, for reasons i’ve made abundantly clear.
But apparently, the solution to the Fox being 8.0 is to move the Warrior up to 8.7 (despite it probably being one of the worse IFVs at 8.3)
Jesus, I wonder what the hell Gaijin “Developers” are going. I tell you what is in need of development, their brains are. Can’t see the painfully obvious staring right at them (that the Fox isn’t intrinsically good, and relies on players being absolute apes/having learnt nothing throughout their journey to Rank 4/5 and not checking their flanks)
The fact you can hide in plain view with a jet engine running underneath you (dont even bother switching the engine off anymore) tells you enough. Ive pretended to be a bush before just to have 2 gepards (respawns as i had just killed them a second ago) go right by me.
Christ it’s just as well not many people in WT are actual armed forces bods because they have godawful Situational Awareness…
really wish they buff The Turret reverse to 30 degrees and gun elevation speed same as the Challenger 1
it won’t break anything I don’t see why they don’t want to make a competitive tank
( we want people to play minor Nations mostly get stomped out by the big three)
No, youll have the turret elevation of a pig with a broken neck and youll like it. Always funny to see when gaijins claims half the mantle is taken up by the elevation mechanism. You would think it could raise it a little quicker if its that big…
just another bug report on the challenger 2 for people to take a look at! the destruction model of the 2f seems to be odd, more specifically the driver hatch.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jN2fqROijIxF