What’s the 3P4?
Challenger 3 Prototype 4
Screw it we need Challenger 4. Bring it on!

I don’t envy the 3D modeler who has to model that, it’s got tiny pieces and parts all over. I think it sucks that we’ve had to resort to ERA for CR3. Does that mean Dorchester has pretty much reached it’s max potential? Also I wonder how much more the look of it is likely to change up until it enters service.
Relatively simply compared to some vehicles in-game.
Main addition left will be the APS and probably overall refinement of the ERA positions, but probably not that significant I think.
Im out of my depth for the armour on it. But the actual CR3 not the CR2LEP we have at the moment, should be a fairly solid top tier MBT, still a little on the slow side, but should easily keep pace with the Leopards and Abrams in terms of firepower and survivability
My main concern for CH3 is what sights they give it, it’s bad enough having fixed 6x on Ajax on an actual tank it will be worse.
I believe EPSOM is NERA - look how thin the modules are.
EPSOM is the modular stuff fitted across the turret and frontal hull. Farham is the composition of the ‘base’ armour.- Chobham family but the next stage on from Dorchester.
The CR3TD and Ajax should largely have the same optics iirc. I think its just Gaijin being obtuse
CR3 will have the 6x fixed
it will only change if gaijin change their rules for sight modelling, where it could potentially go from 1x - 24x zoom, but that requires unity sights, and 4x digital zoom on the 6x optical zoom
are the same
Gaijin just gave 3TD the Chally 2E sights as placeholder, there is an accepted report on its sights
Fixed then unfixed
yeah, gaijin fucked it after fixing it
why they are so bad for fixing something ?
Where is this from?
i have insane ammounts of respect that your still trying, im gonna take a break from this game until it hopefully gets reviewbombed again or smth
Big bore BM(P)T you said? Time to ad Object 195 thank you for your forum suggestion 😎!
Even if we get that, it won’t be the best in game. It’ll be harder to deal with, which means they’ll just put it up in BR and give other nations DU/more modern rounds. Which would make life even harder for the Chally (especially with the hull ammo).
that’s only if they give it DM63/73 which have the propellant that’s hard to detonate upon hitting it/spalling it. Otherwise that hull ammo will still be a problem.
Also, just gonna ask? Has ANYONE found any solid proof of the challenger 2s composite LFP armor? |
Ive seen a few places mention it, But never solid evidence. (which is not like it would help)
But of ALL the MBTs in this game i really feels like the Chieftains and Challengers both get SO SHAFTED.
The Chieftains get needlessly nerfed and moved up in BR, while having shells that have MULTIPLE TIMES been proven to be Historically inaccurate to the point where L15A3 can barely pen a T-62 at range, the Challenger 1s are stuck in the 10.3-11.3 Russian steam roll hell hole.
The C2s just do not perform as well as they should at all. We are talking about a tank with 1200hp that Handles worse than a Tiger 2 that weighs more, and has half the HP.
Idk if the Chally 1 should be beating down at 9.3-9.7. That would be a nightmare. Now should someone tanks from 9.3 to 10.7 get different shells? Yes! To make the Chally viable.