what is the point any more the devs have no intention to fix the CR2
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The russian 10.3/10.7 lineup has even made those brs unplayable for me. The 292 i hate with pure rage.
okay. ((i cant believe its come to this))
I just spent about 10 minutes in blender meshing up what the trunnion SHOULD look like… I don’t understand how its so difficult for Gaijin to understand this…
This is what we have currently… as you can see there are great gaping holes where the trunnion pins should go. It’s crucial that they are there, as they are what the trunnion pins go into and the whole gun pivot’s on those pins.
This is what is missing. Two large pins that sit inside the trunnion that allow it to pivot on them. These act as pivot point and would increase the armour in the areas where the holes are.
So finally this is what it should look like when complete. The pins sit in those holes, allowing the trunnion to rotate on them.
My 3d modeling skills aint the best but, please, please sort this out.
Many reports have been thrown at gaijin about this, many that reenforce this design.
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The fact that the only way CR2 will actually get a buff is if the devs make a mistake screams volumes.
Crumbs - we couldn’t have a vehicle with it’s actual armour being released could we? Unless it’s Russian - in which case they certainly will - and even in many cases add an extra 100mm or so hidden armour just to make doubly sure (cough- IS-6 -cough).
I have words that would describe the devs - but they are fruity and I’ll probably get banhammered. Let’s just settle for saying I think they’re the biggest bunch of unfathomably insert whatever words one deems to be appropriate I’ve ever had the misfortune to come across.
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It’s all by design, I told you it was pointless trying. They literally just hate the challenger 2 in particular, the more stupid they can make it look the better.
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you can’t get the pins inside that mantlet
They’re inside in, and theres a whole nother part of the mantlet to go in that gap
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so my design is currently based off of gaijin’s one. This what you have sent, is what it is suppose to look like. they should note the lack of trunnion pins, meaning that the gaps left behind by them missing would have to be filled OR THE GUN WILL FALL OFF.
I have to spell this out to them or they will ignore it.
It may be a surprise (to gaijin), but the trunnion pins hold the trunnion in place, which hold the gun in place. without them, the whole thing is free floating which doesn’t agree with physics.
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Just look at how flippin strong that would be. This dumbass game.
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I might just start asking stupid questions like “can I get a devs explanation for what a gun trunnion is for?”
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A smart developer and I know that in short supply at old Gaijin would have allowed the BMP-T to switch fire modes and for the single shot retain the previous accuracy and for the full auto mode, add the new dispersion.
I don’t understand why they just do not ever think
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My whole point making the 3d model, even though it would not work because “how do you get the pins in there” is that; I made that in 10 minutes. Not just the pins, the WHOLE trunnion. its no perfect by any stretch, but if that took me 10 minutes, imagine what a professional modeler can do in an hour, or a day, or a week even. Instead of them getting this wrong 100 times and blaming us for it; how about they use common sense, look at the source material being provided to them, and get it right the first time.
My model isnt accurate. not at all; however its closer to the real solution than what gaijin have done, and we all know it. They need to fix it.
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I wonder if we ask BAE really really nicely if they’ll supply us with a 3D model of the Challenger 2 Trunnion
I promise I wont send it to the Russian Developed silly tank game
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Thinking about it if they did lower the whole gun and breech back to what it was before the rework, would that mean they’ed have to make the rotor taller, because wouldn’t there be a gap where it meets the roof?
For improving the protection of T-80/90 mantlets, of course.
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If only Brits decided to make their own version of Kontakt-5
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Well Gaijin is so keen so slate NERA maybe ERA should damage modules when it goes off? Or have the chance for the whole array to detonate. Instead of that one square you hit.
Why go for a plainly inferior and technologically backward option?
No ability to take multiple hits.
Blasts supersonic bits of metal all over the place when activated.
Degrades with time due to inevitable chemistry with the explosives content.
Negated using anti-ERA rounds (which the Brits both know about and use).
Plus a well-supported base of research and development into Chobham and later NERA which every modern NATO and NATO-aligned military has deemed to be a better option.
Only Russia went for Heavy ERA…and look how brilliantly their tanks are doing…(said no one ever)
It’s only in the weird and wonderful world of War Thunder where it actually does anything.
Challenger 130 needs to come, and SOON.
We need the Big bore BMTs.
M1 Thumper, The 2 Leopard 2s with 140s, and the new 130 proposal, the Leclerc 140.
Challenger 130 has ALOT of changes to it that go far beyond a Dress up package, it has a new transmission, that allows them to crank the CV12 up to the full 1500hp its capable of outputting, much more armor on the turret, a Confirmed composite armored mantlet.
And judging by the promo photos and such, Hydro-pneumatic suspension.
As it does straight up raise, lower, and tilt in the Photos and promo video, Outside of the normal travel the C2s suspension has.
The 130mm gun also has the benefit of being able to go back to DU projectiles, Something the L/55 gun on the C3 TD can’t use due to the High velocity.
it’s literally the Rhm LEP (CR3 TD in-game) with a different gun and the turret dressed up a little
They will give it to Germany; this conversation has already happened once before, and I think the official stance on it is that it would be more German than British. We could get it too? however I think they would give it to Germany.
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