Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

Would it use the same 1200hp engine, its my only gripe. The acceleration is horrendous, same as on the type 10. Its as if gaijin think 1200hp is a drop in the bucket compared to 1500. The torque alone should accelerate it up to speed fairly quickly.

I think it would get but in terms of the acceleration, I recommend you try neutral steer with the TTD and you’ll see that Gaijin didn’t even give it a gearbox. Read the article of it on tank encyclopaedia and you’ll see that the gearing is more fucked than the BMP 3’s. I’m gonna make a forum soon pointing out all the inaccuracies of South African vehicles and the TTD seems to have the longest list of problems

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Seriously, this is already a joke, the NERA and ERA armor of Western tanks. They have as little idea that they can perfectly give them 400 CE protection as they could give them 300 million, since the developers set the protection capacity depending on what they have eaten during the day, or by rolling several dice.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/pT7qbqt5RWA9

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When they released the TES it could withstand near any ATGM Tandem ones too but the Ka-50 and BMP 2M squad couldnt destroy it easily and cried and it was broken when it left the dev.

Wait till you read this report:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hUjNza9bvJyP

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Well, at least the report has been accepted, now we just have to wait 4 or 5 years for it to be implemented. :(

Oh i think its already been “implemented” it was increase from the old 400mm or so ce to the 500mm we have today (cant remember what the old stats were exactly?). I think this is all were getting if im being honest, i already know well never see the ke levels increase as it would actually make the TES a threat to bmps and other such ifs (who would have thought an armour package meant to defend against auto cannon and atgm fire would do that?)

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Definetly a marketing lie that 10t of extra armour would actually do anything

GOD DAYUM, i do forget how THICC the TES is. 10t and thats all we get according to gaijin… The entire internal composite doesn’t even way that much does it? Still find it funny it took us how long just to get the side (im not entirely sure what to call it, NERA, ERA, a sandwich?) to have more than a 1.0 ce equivalent. Just sad really.

Yeah.

  • Slowest tank at top tier
  • Weakest shell at top tier ( bar 1 maybe 2 exception, like I think DM43 is slightly weaker)
  • Weakest sustained fire rate
  • Pretty low down the list when it comes to protection/survivability (and TES upgrade is probably not worth it for the amount of protection it provides)

There really isnt much going for us currently bar some half decent optics.

The TES should be a top tier Tortoise re-incarnated, with the CE protection being roughly triple what it is currently and should be far more resistant to auto-canon fire. Such a shame.

Shame really, i spent all that time spading it just to stop playing it after i got over pressured by a bmp 2m missile over pressuring me after hitting me in the side at an almost 90 degree angle on the NERA… Reminds me of when the ROMAs ERA used to over pressure itself lol.

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Yeah. I put in a load of time and effort to reach top tier because the CR2s look amazing and I also hoped that finally getting to top tier would end the constant feeling of always being uptiered and thus outclassed… but nope. Even in a 12.0 CR2. I feel like every match is a full uptier

I guess we are at the mercy of when we get the CR3(P) and what Gaijin allows it to have.

Thats how other games have modelled it even Squad but no Gaijin think CR2 is crap and should die to 30mm autocannon fire. CR2 TES could have been like Britains T-90M but then the Russians wouldnt like that. And that is a problem players will bug report other nations vehicles to get them crapped on.

I dont think it’s an exaggeration to say in a decompressed world with no buffs CR2 in game is the worst high tier tank.

To be fair, the Russian tanks all reload slower than the Chally 2 even when it runs out of first stage ammo

Thought they were 6.5 seconds and the CR2 second stage was 7.1

T-80s are 6.5 seconds (except for the T-80B) all others are 7.1 seconds.

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Yes and that T-80BVM has far superior gun handling to the CR2 it can get rounds on target faster it also has a superior dart and armour.

Playing slower is a nice palate cleanser but not a first choice

The OTHER half of the time, when the first shot isn’t enough. It matters.
Since 50% isn’t a minority.
It matters.

Also, ur acc probably gonna get nuked… u did something bad…

If you survive the first hit in the CR2, either the person shooting you was a bad shot or you need to go buy a lottery ticket

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