Yeah, about 11mm more pen looking on the wiki. I thought L27A1 was second or third worse, but yeah, looks like that was wrong. We officially have the weakest shell at top tier
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followed by one of hte slowest sustained fire rates xD
also no proper stand off cas until near top tier, the GR1A only gets GBUs so not exactly long range.
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Yep, and the worst mobiliy and we dont even have good armour either
At 10.3. The GR1A is actually very good as few have tracking-thermal tpods let alone on a “supersonic” platform with lots of CMs.
But yeah. At 11.7 the Tornado Gr1 is unplayable these days in anything other than a downtier and a lot of our CAS is quite nerfed, especially when compared to the competition.
Sticking to ground though, the lack of decent top tier IFV or SPAA is what hurts the tree the most though
I use it at 10.3, its ridiculous though france has the jag A with AS30L’s at the same BR, meanwhile the super etendard sits at fking 11.0
Thats my point, look at USA, they’ve got 2 A7s’, an A10, F5 (granted unguided) and then the F8E as well.
even the A4E squadron vehicle with guided agms wayyy down low.
but yeah on the topic of ground it is disgusting , even the new badger BR is what 9.0?
we need some form of reliable light tank.
Yeah, they looked at all the possible options for Britain to get a new top tier IFV and went… "Hmm… Lets pick a south african 9.0. That is exactly what this tree needs "
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As we already have what ? In the 9.0-10.0 area 4 lights?
Got the vfm, rooikat mttd, the rooikat 105, the desert warrior at 10.0 and i think thats it unless im forgetting one.
We also have the fox ar 8.0, why do we keed a 9.0 badger when AJAX or something like that could be added.
Yeah…
exactly. Can even have FnF Javelins for an 11.0
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Personally while I would like to see a L27A1 pen buff, i think a ready rack size increase would be a much bigger buff than getting a bit more pen
Both together would be ideal though
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Isn’t japan’s shell worse?
Nope, and they have 4 second reload
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I mean I’m just glad they didn’t give japan their “WAR” autoloader mode (3s reload but can damage barrel). Extremely annoying the Challenger 2 has among the weakest armour, weakest mobility and weakest top tier round, its pretty much a joke at this point
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Yeah… unfortuantely its a pretty sad time for us
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I’m not a great ground player but pretty sure britain’s selection of tanks isn’t helping my kdr lol
Yeah, im the same. And probably half the reason why I dont enjoy groudn is because of the Britain tax and I may actually enjoy top tier more with any other tree. But yeah…
We have loads of MBTs and that is pretty much the only good thing ot say about the tree
Double Edged sword- More to grind with the not so good mbts :)
I mean would fill a damn role we need filled, rather than fking 6 MBTs or whatever it is at top tier xD
Oh I’m not saying that I’d prefer the ammo upgrade over the ready rack, as realistically it’s not gonna change that much.
You would need to give it M829A2 levels of pen for it to be a substantial effective buff. (which just aint happening cause even im aware L27A1 is long in the tooth)
Ready rack and armour fix would be better for the CR2s’ intended roles.
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mate if you’re basing what ground can offer based off of using Britian in GRB then I suggest giving USA, Ger, sweden or even china a go
china i’va had nothing but fun with, past 7.7
Britains best lineup was about 10.7 with the CR1 mk3 , vickers mk7, CR1 DS and ofc the mk2 and maybe a light, spaa or CAS/CAP.
for me? 8.7 britains the funnest, the cheiftains are just fantastic fun for the BR providing you dont just hold W