Yes afaik, they are getting a slight pen buff (around 20mm) though
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-.- man why not just give the 2a4 its DM33 and put it to 11.0 already ffs
Think its the worst penning top teir round rn no?
Hmm… Im not sure. Very possibly
edit: Yeah looks like it.
Think leclercs is marginally better
Yeah, about 11mm more pen looking on the wiki. I thought L27A1 was second or third worse, but yeah, looks like that was wrong. We officially have the weakest shell at top tier
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followed by one of hte slowest sustained fire rates xD
also no proper stand off cas until near top tier, the GR1A only gets GBUs so not exactly long range.
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Yep, and the worst mobiliy and we dont even have good armour either
At 10.3. The GR1A is actually very good as few have tracking-thermal tpods let alone on a “supersonic” platform with lots of CMs.
But yeah. At 11.7 the Tornado Gr1 is unplayable these days in anything other than a downtier and a lot of our CAS is quite nerfed, especially when compared to the competition.
Sticking to ground though, the lack of decent top tier IFV or SPAA is what hurts the tree the most though
I use it at 10.3, its ridiculous though france has the jag A with AS30L’s at the same BR, meanwhile the super etendard sits at fking 11.0
Thats my point, look at USA, they’ve got 2 A7s’, an A10, F5 (granted unguided) and then the F8E as well.
even the A4E squadron vehicle with guided agms wayyy down low.
but yeah on the topic of ground it is disgusting , even the new badger BR is what 9.0?
we need some form of reliable light tank.
Yeah, they looked at all the possible options for Britain to get a new top tier IFV and went… "Hmm… Lets pick a south african 9.0. That is exactly what this tree needs "
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As we already have what ? In the 9.0-10.0 area 4 lights?
Got the vfm, rooikat mttd, the rooikat 105, the desert warrior at 10.0 and i think thats it unless im forgetting one.
We also have the fox ar 8.0, why do we keed a 9.0 badger when AJAX or something like that could be added.
Yeah…
exactly. Can even have FnF Javelins for an 11.0
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Personally while I would like to see a L27A1 pen buff, i think a ready rack size increase would be a much bigger buff than getting a bit more pen
Both together would be ideal though
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Isn’t japan’s shell worse?
Nope, and they have 4 second reload
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I mean I’m just glad they didn’t give japan their “WAR” autoloader mode (3s reload but can damage barrel). Extremely annoying the Challenger 2 has among the weakest armour, weakest mobility and weakest top tier round, its pretty much a joke at this point
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Yeah… unfortuantely its a pretty sad time for us
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I’m not a great ground player but pretty sure britain’s selection of tanks isn’t helping my kdr lol