and that only iirc, because of barrel wear.
So a factor that is not present in war thunder
Do we have any data/images on the presence of hull side spall liners for the Challenger 2?
We know it has UFP/LFP spall liners (LFP STILL NOT MODELLED???), but what about the sides?
It seems strange to do the full turret and hull front and then leave the sides completely vacant of spall liners.
L55 In combination with the Cr.2 gun shield, it gives a monstrous explosiveness for the hull-down gamplay.
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Yeah they are stuck in a rough AF spot though cause they are quite good if they go down in BR and then almost immediately would rise up again
It is a pity that the BN project did not last a little longer, because a new shell for a rifled cannon was in development. And, as can be seen from the interview, it was supposed to be integrated with the HAIP program in terms of the option to boost the engine to 1500 h/P.
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Most of mid to late cold war NL should have been added to Germany.
The Dutch during WW2 were very opposed to Germany for good reason.
I mean ofc that is without debate at all, im sure I shouldn’t have to clarify that xD
I mean, we got Cold War Hungarian stuff in Italy, so getting WW2 Dutch stuff in Germany isn’t that crazy
If BeNeLux wasn’t in France then yeah but because of how lazy Gaijin is they’ll just give everyone C&P vehicles
The 1500HP engine does make sense given the 2E. It makes sense to include that in the planned domestic versions. Just a shame it was scrapped (for now) for the CR3
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It was not MTU, but the 9A from HAAIP
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I think that regardless of whether Bae or Rhm won, both would have received the same HAAIP upgrades, so even if BN had ran for longer we’d have had the same speculation and discussion around engine power as we’ve had for the CR3 and its TD?
The CR3 is going to have the 1500hp without doubt. If you go looking for a specific thing that says yes it will or no it won’t, you likely won’t find anything but the CR3 upgrade is just taking the hull from the recently upgraded CR2s and giving them a new turret and slight hull change. The BN (or Black Knight idk) would probably been the same type of upgrade
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Yes, the HAAIP is a separate program from LEP/3, if BN were to continue it would have receive the HAAIP, and no 3 will exist without HAAIP. When it comes to HAAIP output, all I’ll say is we wait for official data.
On another note iirc BN is still complete, so it might get the 9a along the rest of Cr2, but it knight be reverted to a standard Cr2 in the process.
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/uKfLG2d5jfoW
I made a bug report for the Chally 2 side hull spall liners.
The evidence is quite limited, but solid. The photos have already been used to report the LFP spall liner but I didnt see a dedicated one for the side spall liners which are also visible in the photos.
These only show the side next to the drivers position, but I couldn’t find any other photos.
Even if gaijin just models those spall liners instead of the full side spall liners it would be an improvement.
If someone has already reported this then my bad, but theres no harm done in having a second report.
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On a seperate report (not my one above!), the bug reporting manager says there are internal CR2 spall liner reports.
Hopefully that means the tank will be getting some additional liners eventually.
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Perhaps can be added alongside the Challenger 4
Yeah, when humanity gets to the technology level of the improved Dark Star and when humans become peaceful, intelligent creatures
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even that is optimistic
I know but I need hope
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