Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

I have a few suggestions for some Challengers 2’s pending. Think you guys might like them.

2E

All I want from the CR2 at the moment is a decently sized first stage ammo (or at least a sensibly quick replenishment) and a dozer blade.

I’ve given up any hope for anything more than that coming for the CR2 this decade

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I want the realistic reload time more than anything. 3-4secs. Theres so many C2 variants we should of had by now.

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I think that these would at least be enough to show that the CR2 isn’t still bad and that it is a good tank

tripping, in the back grounds you have (in picture order) a chieftain mk10, churchill, Stug of some kind, something cold war german, and a Ferret Mk5 with swingfire atgms.

(first pic different angle)

Its a great tanks for its role. Hull down, ridging and sniping. But Gaijin wont be realistic with it like they are with Russian tanks. Missing spall liners (Community Bug Reporting System), slow reload, slow first stage ammo replenishment time. Thats just the start.

I think he’s talking about the last picture

False, you get abrams levels of top speed. Actually 72kmph however, the tank is still substantially heavier and more sluggish than an abrams.

Depends the challanger TBH, the BN i would prefer without it, the CR2 TES or 2F i like with it.

CR2E is in the game? or are we all missing that out, its literally meant to be the “same” as the one sent to greece for trials…

They are different. The one sent to SA, Greece and Wales are all slightly modified, the SA trialled one had better air filters and the CR2 sights and stuff; the Greek one had different CITV and HMG; the British one had the TOGS removed and the sights changed

Huh maybe I got wrong information as when i looked into it there was only two or three actually made wasn’t there, as well as that the one for the greeks suffered due to having was it material in the barrel or using a bit of a dodgy round ?

The SA? south africa trialed the CR2? There you go learn something new everyday man.

Didn’t realise they persued the CR2 as much as they did, thought they just went with their own thigns in the olifants and such

Edit : a bit off topic, but on my little SA search i discovered an Olifant with applique armour, wtf is this and why do I want it

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That is a Olifant Optimum. Think of it as Olifant Mk.2 if funding was kept.

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Seems a bit like the TTD that can mount the 120mm cannon and such, a lot of what ifs.

(NGL I love all the centurion based tanks and that thing looks absolutely minted IMO)

Thanks for that information

The SA 2E would be a fun premium/event tbf, double the reason to be in the tree. Did it use a different camouflage?

Yea, they shared some technology.

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A prototype was actually produced btw, so perfectly reasonable to be added
(in fact it was passed to devs already - Olifant MK1B "Optimum" suggestion)

Basically a Mk.2 with blow out panels and better armour a nice 9.7 IMO

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Don’t know anything about the Greek trials besides that they weren’t successful

Yeah, after the Logim project (which the TTD came out of) and the Olifant 2 project (later renamed to Olifant Mk.1b Optimum) were cancelled but before the Olifant Mk.2 was pursued

Sort of

The TTD was also going to fit a 140mm if the 120mm cannon and tank were accepted into service

I’ll post a link to the Olifant 2 suggestion and a TTD forum for more info

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Trialled by the British on ZA behalf

More faithful reflection of typical ZA camos

Neat, was wondering if they did anything like that.
Would be fun to see imo