Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

[An_Pigeon]

@Mulatu_Astatke

I think the developers will find the current ready rack for the Challenger 2s is quite accurate:

From the UK MoD

IS that actually a legal document? trying my best to source that and I cannot.

[Morvran]

Bug report for a Critical missing feature on the Challenger 2

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0HEVAQt37yxa

[MrBombastic8]

denied

[Morvran]

Yeah… The caffeine withdrawal symptoms for my CR2 crew is going to be hard

[MrBombastic8]

britain suffer again

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

I’ve played a few matches with the Challengers.

It’s such a shame. There IS potential. The mobility corrections made them almost good.

Unfortunately, they are held back the most by the lack of LFP spall liners (it’s not so damn hard Gaijin) and first order stage ammo rack replenishment speed (and possibly size).

But the biggest offender is definitely the missing spall liners. Challengers could shine if their survivability was a strength.

Many bug reports aren't as difficult to fix as they are made out to be. Seriously, just fix them

Many times, when we bring up a but report that has not been fixed for years, we know the answer; “This is a complex topic that requires investigation. It can’t just be fixed right away.” This was the answer given in regards to Challenger 2’s missing lower front spall liner, for example. That “modern armor is a very complex matter” and that “it takes time for the developers to review and verify them”. So let’s see- since there appears to be extreme difficulty for Challenger 2’s spall liners, h…

[joshje100]

Distant relatives

Spoiler

[Sea_Harrier_FRS1]

I don’t see much difference besides barrel length and placement

[luque13]

Similar levels of mobility!

[An_Pigeon]

@SPANISH_AVENGER

But the biggest offender is definitely the missing spall liners. Challengers could shine if their survivability was a strength.

Their literal main thing IRL is their protection levels and in game its pathetic, I get balance, and that they aren’t mobile bunkers, but c’mon

[CHARM_3]

A trialed autoloader system on the Challenger 2.

[Sea_Harrier_FRS1]

Gimme autoloader now! The survivability isn’t even very high in-game anyway and a fast reliable reload would be nice

Do you know what the speed is?

[MrBombastic8]

oh no carousel autoloada

[CHARM_3]

I haven’t done much research into it. From what i know it was originally used for testing in the MBT-80 then they re-used it on the Challenger 2 when NATO wanted to do some testing to see how autoloaders would cope in modern and/or western tanks.

[Sea_Harrier_FRS1]

20rds in a bustle autoloader isn’t bad though. I hope we could get this added onto 2 special CR2s or 1 CR2 with a autoloader researchable mod

[Sea_Harrier_FRS1]

I see that the carousel autoloader was used from the MBT 80, you can see the MBT 80’s turret shape in the top pic

[CHARM_3]

Yh originally for the MBT-80 then trialed on C2 for testing. The only actual fitted and working C2 with an autoloader is Rheinmetall Defence 130mm Gun Testbed Challenger 2

[warhead_beast]

Wasn’t one of the autoloaders developed for the 140mm gun concept?

[CHARM_3]

Yes 140mm and 120mm

[CHARM_3]

I’ve also submitted a more detailed bug report as the bug still exists. Community Bug Reporting System

They are clearly just ignoring bug reports.