@luque13 as I was in the game you was crying about iron fist. For it to stop APFSDS you have to be outside of a certain range. It has to fall within a certain velocity. At 500m nearly all Russian tanks APFSDS is still to fast for the iron fist to intercept the projectile. I use the blacknight a lot and i frequently fully stop APFSDS with iron fist. Currently iron fist doesn’t even reduce penetration it completely destroys the projectile now providing you are within the parameters of the system. For the fast projectiles you need to be atleast 1000m away for it to work. This is how it’s always worked. For slower projectiles they can be significantly closer. It may have a really fast reaction time but when you have a shell flying at you starting from 1800m/s a significant amount of distance needs to be travelled for it to fall within the velocity it can intercept.
So yes it works infact it’s probably the best APS system in game by a very wide margin.
It doesn’t feel as reliable which was the point I was making. The tank in question shot me from the crane outside the other teams spawn or just passed it.
The round was 3BM46 not 3BM60 so one of the slower rounds.
I was mistaken 3BM46 is actual as fast as 3BM60…
Which makes my rudimentary maths and complaints invalid.
I thought 800m distance / 1500ms velocity gives a time to impact of 0.6 seconds well within the advertised reaction time for Iron Fist.
It’s such a shame. There IS potential. The mobility corrections made them almost good.
Unfortunately, they are held back the most by the lack of LFP spall liners (it’s not so damn hard Gaijin) and first order stage ammo rack replenishment speed (and possibly size).
But the biggest offender is definitely the missing spall liners. Challengers could shine if their survivability was a strength.
I haven’t done much research into it. From what i know it was originally used for testing in the MBT-80 then they re-used it on the Challenger 2 when NATO wanted to do some testing to see how autoloaders would cope in modern and/or western tanks.
