Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

Smoothbore APHE when? Or at least SAPHE.

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Already in game
https://wiki.warthunder.com/Stormer_HVM

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Aren’t British two-pounders smoothbore?

Nah, the 2pdr is rifled. I don’t have a picture of, but by the documentation it’s got 12 grooves with a right hand twist. You can occasionally see the rifling drawn on diagrams of the little john adapter.

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then why the hell are they so crooked?

What? I have no idea what you mean.

low accuracy

I Think you’re just silly.

How does bro know the exact groove number and number of twists off the top of his head …

He lives and breaths that information.

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Pfft, nah I’m dumb as rocks, I just know where to look and that sort of thing lmao

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Then do you know anything about the 13.5", 15", and 18" naval guns.

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Stealing my thunder…

Please sir, do give me more info on extremely large fictional guns that I wish to mount on a ship (20 inch my beloved)

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Knowing where to look is more than half the battle.

So, how is everyone feeling about 2nd Cr2 destroyed by enemy fire?

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IMG_7214

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Unfortunately not.

I feel like this has gone off topic. Lets keep it to Challenger 2 and more importantly, the game.

At this point, challenger 2 is like gum on the bottom of Gaijin’s shoe. they are trying to get it out but its just making it worse. The ERA is next to useless against most chemical munitions you will face at the BR it has it, I.E. Vikurs, and BMP-2m missiles etc. that can easily defeat the 400mm protection; the armour hasn’t changed much and the weak spots are still the exact same and the speed has been nerfed on the Challenger 3 TD - Its unlikely it will ever get sorted, considering there are issues with it currently that have been bug reported since the introduction of the first Challenger 2, that still haven’t been fixed, primarily the turning. Its still sluggish to the point that turning at speed will bring you to a complete stop (this shouldn’t happen) - but until they add some form of pseudo regen steering, its unlikely it will be. The vehicle (compared to other top tier MBT’s) is far too situational. It cant brawl, it can barely hull down ((considering a leopard 2, t80 and abrams, can hull down far better as their weakspots arnt on the turret.)) as you reveal your weak spots when you do so; and for the most part you are too slow to get to advantageous postions. The only exception to that is the 2E. I guess Gaijin are just at a point where they look at the challenger 2 as a “jack of all trades but a master of none” while every other tank around it is a master at some.

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I’m going to be honest, it has done. Partly to blame is Gaijin, if they’d showed a willingness to fix and listen to bug reports and not just randomly deny them or put them on hold for years on end, then we wouldn’t be at the stage where people have just given up on this tank.

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