Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

Does anyone want the doser kit? I want the doser kit.

This is much closer, I was almost sweating when you said the baseplate was 2m tall.

But even if the backing plate comes to just 9t, I don’t know man I think you come in over 12.3t with everything on there. I mean if the full set of side VARMA is 2t that is probably not far off the hyrbrid ASPRO-HMT boxes.

Which means your mine plate, RWS, front block, turret VARMA, the bar armour and any extra internal weight in just 1.2t.

The mine plate alone would eat that up.

…that’s only the shock-absorbing mount for the loader’s VUDT, not a container for it!.

isnt that the same, like it sits there, so it is a container, isnt it?

Can somebody give us an estimate for how much the gen 1 ufp should weigh?

Ok, first
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Then backplate debate
And now Fireball is asking for UFO weight
I think i need to take a break
But yea idk, probably can be masured 25mm is is, yea?
it takes a decent space
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why oh why can’t Gaijin just accept its a sodding Steel plate of 40mm, and is not considered for protection when the ASPRO-HMT states it is Level 5.

It’s pretty tough to draw conclusions from just the maths as it’s going to be rather inaccurate.
Lets say the material we remove from the steel plates is around 20%. I’m eyeballing that based on the diagram above.
20% of the steel removed, gives us 4.4T per plate.
8.8T total.

The mine plate is 1.25 tons
So we’re given roughly 10.05t

This gives us 2.25 tons of weight to play with. Bar armor is pretty lightweight all things considered and can be bent out of shape so this wont play a huge role in our 2.25 tons. ASPRO-HMT is designed to be fitted and loaded by hand, with Ease of Installation being among ASPRO-HMT’s selling points.

I dunno man, it looks pretty okay to me. that’s ALOT of weight to play with.

So then the CR2 OES premium we have is just the DL2I? I hope we get the 2I late with the best barracuda net AS A TECH TREE VEHICLE. I want to iterate that.

Yes it is just 2I

Here’s a quick one. Few bolts missing from the diagram securing baseplate to wall, and there’s a lug locking system which keeps the VUDT in.
vudt

Ok, then container is a bad word to use, but that is what i meant. Mount it is then

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I think it’s safe to rule out Aluminium as the choice of material here. It’s a soft metal, prone to deformation. Not something you want when you’re mounting rectangular blocks, flush.

It’d also be far too lightweight and wouldn’t line up with our 12+ ton weight increase.

With one source saying it’s steel, and the maths showing with it installed and the mine protection installed, you still have the weight of most cars to load ontop of Challenger 2 before the numbers line up.

@Gunjob I don’t think it’s Aluminium, man.

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You only cut off one tonne per side in bringing it down to 9t total. The amount of surface area to cut off would be closer to 2 tonne per side. Side plates are about 7t total

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The bit of steel bolted to the UFP on CR1 was 150 kg.

If anyone would like to fill in for my research here: Bulldog Mk.3 and Warrior IFV both use the same ASPRO-HMT solution wirh a backing plate. Maybe these vehicles have info on the plates material which you can draw on to conclude TES’ material

Aye, so if this was made of aluminium - you would have a ludicrous amount of weight to magic out of thin air to make it work. It just cant be aluminium

They most likely have a much lighter backing plate construction to due weight limits of the hill chassis themselves

yes but im trying to work out the approximate density for it