Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

about “aluminum plate” that needs to be resolved…

Here’s a few snippets from Challenger 2 workshop manual.

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@Gunjob Community Bug Reporting System All yours, man :)

Yep, we need one more souce, that is why we asked @duckmartin with his books
speak of the devil

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OK, we doing that
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Triplets are stalking me
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Oh GOD
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Sorted. Glad we came to an agreement.

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Well, nothing stating STEEL seems to be there :/

100% I was thoroughly getting sick of looking at dust covers hahaha
Thanks for sticking with me, Gunjob. Always a pleasure to hash out research together :)

From mine POV it looked like you all proved what was known (just to break you and make you aware that you only wasted your time)

Here is why
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That part talks about mounting on the backlate VARMA, as ASPRO is not here yet.

YES THE DL2G BACKLATE IS THE SAME AS 2H
:)
(im about to get hated)
Im suprised no one is mad

People were unsure of the plate thickness and it was a big unknown. So I spent the day giving a definite, research backed answer. I don’t think that’s a waste of time :P

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Right now the material type, can someone tell me the whole weight of the TES armour package?

Then for the engineers/material science people, if the backing plates where made of steel how much would it weigh? Vs also how much would it be if it was aluminium?

Combat weight - fully loaded minus crew and DL2 packages - is quoted as 64t. The Workshop manual lists the OES as 74.8t, assuming that’s also combat weight it would give the entire package a weight of about 10.8t

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What we need is 2F late and 2G weight if possible, as the only additions there is plate and block at the bottom, TES also has mine protection

Original Challenger 2, Unmodified is 62.5t in weight in game.
With TES upgrade, it’s 74.8
Total weight increase is 12.3 tons so that’s TES’ overall weight (roughly)

Challenger 2 is 8.3 meters long and approximately 2.5 meters tall, including the turret.
Assuming the turret takes up roughly 0.5m in height, we get a side skirt dimension of around 8 meters long by 2 meters tall, and 40mm in length.
To calculate the total mass of our steel plate we need to plug it into the formula

Weight = Area × Thickness × Density

Plugging our numbers in of 16 meters squared area, 40mm thickness and 7,850kg/m3 for steel we get
5024kg or 5.53T per plate.

Aluminium is far less dense at 2,700kg/m3. Running the maths again, you get a total weight of approximately 1,728kg or 1.90t per plate.

These are approximate numbers based off the tanks dimensions but suffice enough to draw approximations about the material used in relation to TES’ overall weight.

Well from what we know is when DL2E was added challenger 2 it’s weight went from 63 tonnes to 66.1 ton then with TES it goes up to 74.8 tonnes !!

You’re looking at a total of approximately 11.06 tons of weight total for both base plates installed, made of steel. Leaving you with 1.24 tons to account for ASPRO-HMT, mounting brackets, and the other additions made by TES

MINE PROTECTION
hehe
just like Enforcer, ECM, plates at the engine, slats, Composite blocks at the turret and all the changes inside
Yea, calculations go brr

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