Yea, we got a report by Legwolf that talks about the same thing, and is passed
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Yes, that is correct
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/EOBDXCu2pHDl
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/S3xGexRIXPBx
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Could somebody report this for CR2/3 please, thanks
Another day, more CR2 bs.
Twice in the same match.
Shoot Click-Bait, take out engine, he makes a snapshot…Breech, Turret drive, 2 crew members, Second shot im killed, crew knocked out.
Respawn.
Leo2A4 hurtling accross the map, i shoot, ‘ricochet’.
He makes a snapshot, whilst travelling at speed…loose my breech.
how
fkn
long
does
gaijin
need
to
fix
this
glaring
problem.
Every other MBT in this game has a more survivable mantlet.
I really dont beleive that the devs are sat there thinking this is fine, and as per the IRL CR2.
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Was in my to-do list however my searching returned no definitive figures for what sort of effectiveness. We could expect, at minimums, protection from shrapnel, and small arms (5.56 and probably 7.62) in the torso area however I don’t have proof on that other than that account.
I’ll do some digging tonight and see what I can turn up, but I suspect that all British vehicles of the correct age (Stormer, and Warrior would probably get said protection too)
Heck, an account from Toby Harnden’s “Bandit Country” -
“By 1997, troops were being issued with body armour containing a ceramic plate made from boron carbide, which could protect from a .50 calibre round… but a set of boron carbide body armour… weighed 32lbs”
Might be getting desperate, and I have no idea if that armour set was ever used by Tank Crews.
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Here’s what I found:
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Coolio. I’ll draft something up and see if I can get anything on that Boron Carbide armour plate. It’s not impossible the tankies used it, though the same quotation states that they found it impractical to wear while patrolling at all and couldn’t wear them for sustained periods of time standing.
Somewhere in that challenger 2 range incident where the crew members diedthere’s mention of the stang level protection of the vests worn by the crews.
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Shoot M1A2 in the mantlet with L27, hes sat about 200m infront of me.
Does nothing
no pen.
He takes my breech.
Aight
im done for the day
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The .50 cal vest was a separate vest to CBA/ECBA. I did have photos of it once upon a time, but don’t seem to be able to find it now. Was basically two large plate bags with straps between them - by all accounts the plates that went inside them were massive thick things.
It was only issued in Northern Ireland because of a very specific threat there, and we didn’t put tanks in NI - so it was likely never worn by tankies. When they say it wasn’t for foot patrols, that means it was equipping troops in Sangers.
Indeed, tankies were generally the troops lacking sufficient body armour as late as the 2003 Iraq war. Not having ECBA available directly contributed to the death of Sgt. Steven Roberts from 2RTR from friendly fire - the first British solider to die in the war. That incident is why in things like the Castlemartin report posted here, it says ECBA/Osprey/STV vests with plates are mandatory for tank crews to wear nowadays - it’s been the case for 20 years now.
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They did bring some tanks over here. The AVRE to destroy some blockades. They never fired and just rammed with the doser. I think that was before the vests though.
I would think so, defending against a 50cal round alone is insane… even sceptical. Maybe he meant a penetrating 50cal shot.
Never mind just read what the other guy said. I wouldn’t expect the challenger crews to be wearing said things as they wouldn’t have to worry about 50cal rounds unless outside the tank.
I suppose it was for this fella
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Sounds about right from my reading. Again, 32lb of weight is not very practical, even at OPs and Sentry points.
Yeah agreed. It’d make no sense, as opposed to using ECBA which is more aimed towards small arms and frags, which from a tanker’s point of view is the biggest threat you’re likely to face if you ever have to dismount.
I’ll go looking. If I could find a table of what each STANAG level provides protection-wise I can then bang that in the report too.
Expect an edit to this one
I can’t find my post about it on one of these threads where i posted both.
chally issues dovbleg when
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It’ll just be another shitpost like the abrams one was.
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