Source 1: Challenger 2 The British Main Battle Tank - Rate Photograpghs from Wartime Archives" (part of the Images of War series) written by Rob Griffin and M. P. Robinson, Chapter 6, page 20 - “The New Vickers MBT”
Source 2: Tankograd - British Special No 9021, “Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank” - section 4 “Challenger 2 Technology”
Making it my sole focus to not get ammo racked by ammo that shouldn’t be there on CR2 lmao
That Diagram is only for a Challenger 1 mk 1 and mk 2 with the erlier GRP charge bins that were already used on later chieftain variants.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444131672049451009/1183496657929777272/IMG_20231210_205105.jpg?ex=65888c27&is=65761727&hm=68aebc4c7d3e0eb724a09a1ed93d80bfab269a7154bc5e1b65a92118e4eb57fc&
challenger 1 mk 3 looked like this, you can clearly see the removed bin on the left of the driver
I’m not sure i’m following - It’s these bins which don’t exist, but should
The bin left of the driver exists in CR2, but not the right, which should
There’s no evidence suggesting CR2 has any volitile or inert projectiles in the drivers compartment, nor charges.
These two bins need to be deleted from the model.
And this bin needs to be deleted, and the large horizontal charge bin left of the driver needs mirroring on the right
if the right one was already eliminated with chally 1 mk 3 why should it have been reintroduced with chally 2?
Which will leave it looking exactly like this in the end. Two mirrored charge bins either side underneath the turret ring (as described by my two sources), a charge bin next to the loader and the large U shaped bin behind the crew in the turret basket. Then inert rounds in the turret back and walls, as well as by the loaders feet.
Appreciate where you’re coming from but here’s my source saying the exact location of the ammunition:
…kept in the rear of the fighting compartment, ON EACH SIDE OF THE DRIVER, and in the hull corners
but the source is then contradicting itselves since mk. 3 did not have charge bins on each side of the driver
Practice as in storing apfsds in the turret and charges on the floor
Got this one without the massive glare over the highlighted text?
I can look, but it’s not my photograph
As Devil said, I don’t think it’s referring to that portion of the text, but rather the pratice of storing inert rounds on the turret walls and turret sill. Not the rest of the design.
There’s no contradiction there
Added to the report.
Champion 🧡
I’ll try and get a hold of these two books again and take some proper photographs for clarities sake but thankfully that glare doesn’t cover up the actual info needed
Thats a left side, sadly we were looking for the right one
Ahhhh right
Interesting! Not sure really what i’m looking at here. Is this a POV of the loader and his floated ammo stowage next to the breach? While i’m looking for images right of the breach, that’s a larger amount of ammo than we’ve seen for the loader.
