Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 1)

Believe it or not, that first source does actually reference the Vickers MBT Mk7

Well, it highlight it, that it has simmilar to vic 7 wide trunnion and coax. I need the charge bins in vic 7 were armored

@Gunjob Don’t suppose you could add the new sources and evidence to the ammo rack position report?
The sources above clearly outline and agree that all the ammo is stored in the turret, turret walls (inert projectiles), the armored hull bins behind the crew or either side of the driver. This pretty much confirms that there’s no ammo in the driving compartment, and that the layout shout indeed be identical to CR1s, just without the ammo behind the drivers seat and to his left leg.

Need the front covers of the materials used

one of them
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Source 1: Challenger 2 The British Main Battle Tank - Rate Photograpghs from Wartime Archives" (part of the Images of War series) written by Rob Griffin and M. P. Robinson, Chapter 6, page 20 - “The New Vickers MBT”

Source 2: Tankograd - British Special No 9021, “Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank” - section 4 “Challenger 2 Technology”

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Is that all the info you need @Gunjob ?

Making it my sole focus to not get ammo racked by ammo that shouldn’t be there on CR2 lmao

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That Diagram is only for a Challenger 1 mk 1 and mk 2 with the erlier GRP charge bins that were already used on later chieftain variants.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444131672049451009/1183496657929777272/IMG_20231210_205105.jpg?ex=65888c27&is=65761727&hm=68aebc4c7d3e0eb724a09a1ed93d80bfab269a7154bc5e1b65a92118e4eb57fc&
challenger 1 mk 3 looked like this, you can clearly see the removed bin on the left of the driver

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444131672049451009/1183496656910561330/IMG_20231210_205118.jpg?ex=65888c27&is=65761727&hm=a5d5d2a0444a230905e8f27d523353c88ebc57d1e5c04b7054a685c8a73653a3&

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I’m not sure i’m following - It’s these bins which don’t exist, but should
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The bin left of the driver exists in CR2, but not the right, which should

There’s no evidence suggesting CR2 has any volitile or inert projectiles in the drivers compartment, nor charges.
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These two bins need to be deleted from the model.
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And this bin needs to be deleted, and the large horizontal charge bin left of the driver needs mirroring on the right

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if the right one was already eliminated with chally 1 mk 3 why should it have been reintroduced with chally 2?

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Which will leave it looking exactly like this in the end. Two mirrored charge bins either side underneath the turret ring (as described by my two sources), a charge bin next to the loader and the large U shaped bin behind the crew in the turret basket. Then inert rounds in the turret back and walls, as well as by the loaders feet.

Appreciate where you’re coming from but here’s my source saying the exact location of the ammunition:
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…kept in the rear of the fighting compartment, ON EACH SIDE OF THE DRIVER, and in the hull corners

but the source is then contradicting itselves since mk. 3 did not have charge bins on each side of the driver

Practice as in storing apfsds in the turret and charges on the floor

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Got this one without the massive glare over the highlighted text?

I can look, but it’s not my photograph

As Devil said, I don’t think it’s referring to that portion of the text, but rather the pratice of storing inert rounds on the turret walls and turret sill. Not the rest of the design.
There’s no contradiction there

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Added to the report.

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