I wanna know if the turret had blow out panels at the rear lol like the back of it where the ammo is stored looks like it could be a possibility. But I’d definitely wanna know what was inbthe armour packs too
I doubt it: The British have never been much for blowout panels. Mostly just seperated storage of charge from projectile, in bins that give enough time for bailout.
CR2 even lacks this feature (though CR3 appears to incorporate it)
Well, Cr3 uses single piece ammo, so blowouts are welcome and needed
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@Gunjob You wouldn’t happen to have access to the sources used to model CR2 in game would you? Either Gaijin has some incredible documentation or they’ve made some wild guesses.
I can’t seem to find any information that Cr1’s right most ammo bin near the gunners knees was removed for CR2.
it’s this ammo bin i’m looking to definitively prove exists. Any ideas?
Lmao
It’s such a specific ammo layout which is why i’m thinking “where the hell did they come up with this?”
You know how it is, it came to me in a dream, during morning toilet ect… Yea, im not sure where it is from but hey, it works so its fine…
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We don’t have access to the developers resources no.
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Darn. Back to the archives I go lmao
Trying to convince Gaijin to copy this meteorological sensor from the CR3 model over to all the CR2s, where it should be. It’s a detail they’ve missed for years.
I can understand it being on the dev backburner when it’s not been modelled by anybody. But now it’s simply an oversight, and fixing it is a matter of copy and pasting from one model to another and maybe finding a little spot to add it to the UVs and textures.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/IuStjgf05U17
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By far the best issue report for CR2 i’ve seen lmaooo
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Yeh thats totally fair however the universal turret was designed to accept multiple different guns and ammunition types, and at the rear of the mk7 turret there’s 2 doors which could potentially act as blow out panels, I’ve ordered 2 books on the vickers tanks and I’ll see what i can dig up.
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Fair dues, but I wouldn’t hold your breath. Those doors have handles, which is weird for blowout panels. I’d suggest maybe they’re just for loading rounds into the turret en-masse and not actually for crew survivability.
Good luck though!
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Watch this get fixed, and devs saying “We are fixing Challengers 2, see”
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Devs will make obvious mistakes in vehicle specs with no sources to back them up and then require sources to correct those mistakes, and it’s been happening for a long time (cough cough kv-85)
Allow me to help with that, forwarded!
Source: Challenger 2 The British Main Battle Tank - Rate Photograpghs from Wartime Archives" (part of the Images of War series) written by Rob Griffin and M. P. Robinson, Chapter 6, page 20 - “The New Vickers MBT”
"Explosive ammunition and charges were stored below the turret ring. (referencing the 2 large drums like seen on CR1)
“Charges were kept in armored bins around the the rear of the fighting compartment” (Already modelled in game, the large U shaped charge bin at the back)
“ON EACH SIDE OF THE DRIVER” There. I’ve done it. This definitively proves the location of the ammunition and charges are stored in giant bins on each side of the driver as seen in my CR1 diagram posted earlier.
“In the hull corners” is an interesting one, as i’m not sure where they can be. Certainly not in the driving compartment, but likely near the loaders legs as seen here:
https://img-forum-wt-com.cdn.gaijin.net/original/2X/e/e0ec74bdc35ffa82fab3b814033c7e8fb7567867.jpeg
between the red 2 and 4 marker, that’s a HESH warhead.
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Allow me to further slam dunk my point:
“The ammunition is partly stowed at ??? in the turret bustle, as well as in the hull below the turret”
Source: Tankograd - British Special No 9021, “Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank”
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You think that if i cut the top pic a little will it be accepted as a armored bins for the vickers mk 7 :P?
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Believe it or not, that first source does actually reference the Vickers MBT Mk7