It’s simply torturous, it plays without chaff on the higher 12.7.
I just don’t want to play again zzz.
completely breaks the player’s desire to use a new vehicle, There are tons of publications about this, and now Gajin has not spoken out about it.
Is it really that difficult to make money from players enjoying your game?
You always have to profit from the player’s frustration?
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I mean stock aircraft at top tier have only 0 - 2 fox3 to do BVR with so it’s not recommended to be flying high in the first place, plus chaff is tier 1 modification so its not hard to get. Not to mention the new maps they added are pretty flat which i like very much, it makes multipathing a bit easier.
It’s certainly something that needs to be reviewed. We once didnt have flares stock, back when the meta was IR missiles. So probably time to consider giving all aircraft at least some chaff stock. I’d simply make it so that you had 50/50 split perhaps. 2:1 flare:chaff split stock. Without the ability to edit it until you unlock the mod. Still restrictive-ish, but not absolutely punishing.
Defiently one of the changes needed if we are ever to get rid of Multipathing for good.
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You don’t even need to fly high to die, flying low is enough, multipathing is NOT reliable, a su30 or su27sm spamming r77 on you is enough to kill you, the f15C and E with 8 aim 120 too, and it’s just a matter of time and attempt for a missile to hit you even flying below 60 meters or a splash demage from a missile damaging you and you crashing into the ground because it’s damaged.
You don’t have the booster to maneuver, much less the G suit.
So even in low-flying, short-range combat you are at a total disadvantage, you can’t even noch properly because of this.
Booster, Gsuit and Chaff are too essential to not be in a stock aircraft, A pilot doesn’t fly wearing jeans, he wears a G suit, in the middle of the fly by wire era, planes without a booster are ridiculous, it looks like you’re maneuvering a boat, Chaff is essential to defend yourself from Fox1 and Fox3 missiles, even more so with Multipathing so inconsistent.
Until you have these 3 modifications your plane is an easy target, you are just prey in the match, you don’t even have a chance to defend yourself
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simply die like the bot 6x to get the right to launch countermeasures properly
now i need 24k rp to have the right to defend myself properly, Until then I can’t play, I’m easy prey.
This is a horrible game design decision… But it is done on purpose, nobody likes to be negative in combat statistics with the vehicle, nobody likes to be frustrated for not having the right to defend themselves.
This game design is made to frustrate you so that you open your wallet and speed up the process to have the right to defense, because then you will only be frustrated with your skill, and not with the game itself.
So I repeat the question, is it really that difficult for the company to profit from players enjoying the game?
Is profiting from our frustration really necessary?
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+1
If top rank ground gets stock APFSDS as a courtesy now because HEAT-FS is unviable then its only fair for top rank aircraft to also receive it as having no chaff at all makes your plane just as unviable to fight with.
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not only that, the fact that you don’t have thermal, LWS, and suspension is also extremely disadvantageous, the enemy knows when you are aiming at him, he sees you from afar using thermal, his aim is completely stabilized, while you (stock) only accelerate, brake and shoot.
and I’m going to talk about stock helicopters, I’ve never played helicopters, but I have friends who play and they say it’s one of the worst experiences you can have in the game, at least helicopters and tanks still have PVE modes for farming mods, aircraft 13.0 superior with fox 3 don’t even have that
Thermals arent a be all end all and stabilisers tend to do just fine even with bad suspensions. however they really really help. a TLS (laser rangefinder) is a need so probably should be a rank 2 upgrade.
as this is a discussion on top tier air its more that we have to compare Mr Freeaboo in his F18 holding ten spamraams and two 9Ms against a harrier FA2 which can carry 4 aim 120s max stock may not even be carrying any so they can have a gun, and may not even have chaff yet, its just brutal that the objectively worse plane cant even defend itself at all
having no stock chaff in a BR where everyone uses fox3 only is straight up malicious
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