CAS problem

i always find myself not wanting to play the game because its boring, basically burnout.

time passes, enter again, decide to play a vehicle i like on top tier, 1st match, 2 mins into the game and the fucking CAS is already touching our balls like nothing, remember how i hate this game because the game is on the same state with cas for YEARS and gaijin does nothing.

leave game.

repeat.

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There are more BRs than 12.7.

Gaijin is adding SPAA this year.

Seeing how you have multiple options to defeat both ARH and IR missiles merges are inevitable, that is if you don’t want to run away forever.

SM3 has little to no defensive options and is basically a free kill the moment it is spotted by an enemy jet.
SU-34 is a bit better due to actually being a supersonic ARH slinger, but as I said above not a single missile in the game is a guaranteed kill so dodging those is a perfectly realistic scenario.

I’d also love to see a source for your claim, that is if it isn’t just trust me bro.

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Depends what missiles you’re talking about. Kh38s you can fire right off of spawn with a high gaurentee that it’ll get a direct hit. With Hammers, it’s a similar story but with a caveat that it takes longer to reach making it easier for targets to lose LOS and interception. You cannot say the same for mavericks.

s300

How does it work? spawn four vehicles?

Do what they had to do it not my problem how or that most KH-38 slinger pilot are noob that can’t figure it out how to deal with situations.

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i would still not spawn spaa, because playing them IS BORING AF

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its not boring if you enjoy relaxing out on the grass looking at the clouds and shooting down a plane every half an hour

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Pretty muchy yeah

even pantsir gameplay is just “tapping the lock button” for 5 minutes till i finally J-out and leave out of boredom

“You are the vocal minority, everybody I knows enjoyed playing SPAAs, my brother, step brothers, stepsisters and frens all enjoy fighting planes in ground battles, they won’t play ground battles if there is no planes for them to shoot down”

~CAS mains

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As I said, the whole idea of FnF is flawed and ideally those weapons shouldn’t be existing in the first place but here we are. I’ll bet that you can fire off your whole load of FnFs before a plane with Laser guided bombs can guide in even two of those in. This is an inherent problem that heavily decreases plane’s exposure time, which makes them far too strong in the current state of the game, at least in my opinion.

Same can be said for FnF helicopters as they can simply pop out for a few seconds, lock, fire their missile and go back to hiding. On plenty of maps they’re virtually untouchable from the ground when played right.

This FnF craze can only be (partially) mitigated by giving AAs FnF ability of their own, as LoS missiles are prehistoric tech at this point.

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You still don’t realize that the game itself is contradicting you. SM3 sits at 11.7 in ARB while SU-34 is at 13.3, which implies both struggle a lot against 14.0s.
This is even before the fact that in ARB you have 15 other teammates that you can bait and play off of, while in GRB you’ll get much more attention from the start.

So, saying that those two don’t struggle against CAP is foolish at best.

Yeah sounds like typical skill issue of KH-38 slinger pilot Gripen this Rafale that EFT those jeez do all of them have single braincell? well maybe it is since having lot of luxury still aren’t enough braincell to use them will then die like they deserve and do tanker community a favor if they are suck that much.

Classic killchat on tops. About 2-3 minutes and hell begins.

I’m waiting for SU-30 and SU-34 to fly to 13.0 and I’ll be able to play on 11.7 and even on 12.0.

I gave you arguments of why both me and the game itself think those two planes are seriously underpowered in a fight against 14.0 CAP. Meanwhile your only reply to this is “HA! skill issue”, which basically tells me you have nothing else of value to add.

Should I feel pity for them for intention of try to get free ground target kill?
hell no
if they don’t know what to do against CAP then die due to skill issue then
simple as that don’t blame Rafale and sht

Even if they know what to do against CAP they’re still at a disadvantage and a pretty big one. You seem unable to accept this fact.

I’m not blaming anything, I’m just telling you those two planes are inferior and should be pretty easy to kill. You on the other hand are throwing a tantrum about skill issues without presenting anything else of value.

SM3 can’t hold a candle to 14.0 CAP ? Noooo it can, skill issue.
SU-34 is inferior to 14.0 CAP ? Noooo, skill issue.

The concept of FnF is flawed because the potential of what it can do. Keyword Potential. The Kh38 is quite close to reaching that potential where as the rest of agms are no where near as potent as the Kh38.

This is the same reason why we don’t have the Aim-9x in the game right now. It is way too powerful and has no counter. By your prior argument, this would be fine as all IR A2A missiles are inherently FnF.


This wouldn’t be a problem if agms can be countered directly. Hiding yourself from the enemy only means something if the agms you launched actually hits. Otherwise, the only meaningful thing you did was distracted and used up the enemy’s resources.


Don’t disagree with you there, all nations need better spaa. Some more than others.


Because that’s what balance is? You get the single most powerful agm in the game so of course it needs to have a inferior A2A platform (ignoring the Su30).


This is one of the reasons why the kh-38 needs to be removed or at the very least needs to be removed from the SM3. It’s such a meta changing weapon that whoever you give it, it must have it’s GRB BR raised extremely high.

should I? do those tanks can fight back against those KH-38 slinger? not even a god damn chance
but CAS plane and fight CAP back? yes, and with nation with best SPAA covering their a*s? absolutely yes

with Pantsir cover thier a*s and still can’t do anything about CAP
yes skills issue if it is case for SU-30SM + pantsir and still can’t do anything about CAP? they don’t even deserve to play top tier at all since they only have on aspect to worry about which is air (that can’t even gain altitude advantage and vertical maneuver) and most CAP against Russia need to worry about both air and ground threat

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