I mean according to this topic
The Kh-38MT may not actually exist - Machinery of War Discussion / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum
maybe KH-38 MT don’t even exist at all, but gaijin let it in the game
it has no picture no video or document states that it exists.
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they could and should just remove that missile
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No one likes being killed by CAS, especially those with FnF weapons. Removing only one of them isn’t a solution to the problem.
Same old story across many BRs.
You’d need to remove half of the game in order for this to not happen which Gaijin isn’t doing.
Fake things aren’t unprecedented in this game, your point ?
less problem I had to deal with especially remove it from the one with best SPAA to covering their a*s
I rather fight Rafale in Gripen than KH-38 slinger with pantsir as combo that I can’t even have any advantage over them apart from turn better
Absolutely. and its just a part of the game. a game that is or could be great because it has this player to player action all in one match. Ground, Air, Helis, SPAA. But now we have 2 top tier planes in game for one nation that are firing these. of which oh what a coincidence. one is a fighter and the other one a ground attacker. So if you are really into competitive gaming it is not a big problem to get into the first one easily and consistently and then because the other one is a different vehicle class farm the sp to spawn the other one with the 5,6 or 7 ground kills you get with the first. And just do that every match.
That is just bs
all while your own team (or nation) is the only one that has an spaa that even has somewhat of a chance intercepting this ordinance when spammed. there are nations that can literally do nothing against even one of these agms from the ground and you have to rely on that poor dude in a flarakrad you are teamed with when you’re playing japan, israel, us, britain or italy to intercept all of them with 2 missiles ready to fire before reloading. Or hope you make enough sp quick enough to spawn a fighter. And theres no other nation in game that can spawn such strong air to ground fire and forget agms from 2 planes of different vehicle classes.
Either you remove all FnFs or none.
Only advantage you need against SM3 or SU-34 is having a perfectly functional keyboard and mouse. You merge, start turning and they’re dead in three seconds. It’s WT’s equivalent of coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb. It’s UFO vs insufferable brick.
SU-30SM shouldn’t have 38MTs for balancing reasons.
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that would be a big step already. at least until stationary aa is here. man can’t wait for that. hopefully the cas dominance without counterplay will finally be over then. and you actually have to do something to get these ground kills or killstreaks
oh? now you’re teaching me about stuff I’m doing for years?
and what SU-34 or SU-30SM advantage over me is functional keyboard is mouse too
plus, altitude advantage because pantsir already denied me that
plus, they can go vertical too while I stuck with horizontal against them
plus, Better Radar
the only advantage i had against them?
I turn better
you keep teaching me bla bla bla yet i never see you do it how about show me hm?
and don’t say doing CAP with Russia jet are better lol
you have pantsir denied all advantage of the enemy already so sht like that are easy
R-77 suck isn’t excuse because like I said even R-darter can work in GRB map.
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I wouldn’t get my hopes up seeing how big of a problem CAS is in other parts of the game for years now. I’d say the best we can expect is to be able to destroy multiple missiles at the same time while also being able to kill some extremely bad pilots along the way.
That doesn’t’ make sense, having the same guidance type does not equal having equal lethality. That’s like if US gets a IR guided hypersonic agm but when someone asks for it to get removed because it’s to OP and there’s no counter, I say that all IR agms should get removed as well. You see how flawed that argument is?
The better argument I can understand is that Russia has no other IR agm in game as a replacement, only TV (keep in mind that china has non either).
Mavericks are the most balanced top tier agms as they cannon be used at far ranges, and forces players to do pop-up attacks which make them vulnerable to all sorts of threats. It only becomes an issue when there are no spaa present but that’s just a given.
i think i saw a post on reddit yesterday of someone apparently playing vs one of the stationary aas. but it was just pictures and a short explanation but it looked promising. Couldn’t check if its real tho so treat with extreme care
EDIT: Here, i found it for you i was scrolling like a madman :-)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1k0ar1c/new_sam_system_is_gonna_be_crazy/
he says he was 18 km from it at high alt when they started firing at him and he turned and ran away for 8 km, so 26 km away and he was still intercepted. Take that pesky F15! And that was just an s-75 by the looks of it! that can single fire one or 32 missiles at once. Imagine 32 of those coming for your su34s or ruffafaloes ass. not a nice view
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It still enables you to spawn, find targets, fire off missiles and go back to rearm or do something else. The whole concept of FnF in WT is flawed in the current state of the game.
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Comments of the OP:
this is for a limited time, mechanic testing AIR event.
This is a multi-vehicle, stationary SAM setup that takes up as much space as the entire spawn. this is NOT going in ground RB.
Even if it did, it would be useless. Sure it has like 60km of range, but its also a giant missile with a whole 2Gs of pull. You can literally dodge it by just rolling hard enough while flying right at it, from my testing in a custom battle with a F-4E and F-105 (planes it faced irl), let alone top tier UFOs like the Rafale or the Su-30.
FUCK. Anyways Patriot and s200/300 it is then :-)
Altitude is giving you an advantage if you like headbutting ARHs, on that we can agree.
Which is all you need when merge is inevitable.
Merge → press key to turn → press key to shoot → engagement done in 2 seconds.
It’s not hard to kill a one trick pony like SU-34 if you have working peripherals. Having your monitor turned on is also an advantage.
Massive 2Gs of pull, 3.0 ready.
It’s russian the snail will squeeze some solid 15 Gs out of it ;-) THIS IS A JOKE
2Gs? is that historical? Chaika in game will outpull that ez pz (Probably not irl, haha that would look hilarious tiny biplane pulling like 10 gs at 200 kph getting smacked by a mach 2 sam like a godray)
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well unlike most of single braincell pilot in KH-38 slinger I know how to use it, and I appreciate it
I need every advantage much as i can, if possible, against any target and remain in that position long as possible (which surprise surprise i rarely have)
let that happen is mistake at the begin with so fault is still on player not plane if one let that happen well then just die that consequences of the action simple
and that’s it having luxury they should use it as possible if they don’t there are consequences.
now it against SU-30/34 yet I still manage and even worse case of skill issue for SU-30 because they are now as fighter has a*s covering by Pantsir denying all advantage of enemy CAP and yet still can’t manage to get rid of the CAP even that CAP is a Rafale.
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You have to merge at some point unless you want to run for the remainder of the game.
no you dont, most air to air kills in GRB dont involve a merge because someone dies before that happens