As previously discussed, i don’t think that is objectively the case.
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Hey, I’d certainly have fun having air-map sized ground battles that everyone gets thrown into. More playstyle options, and it’d probably make people actually want to work together.
TO supporters aren’t making claims of objectivity. If you’re going to say something is objectively true, then you need to bring evidence. That’s what “objective” means.
hey Fellow tankers, hows the CAS thread today?
have you been calmed by the SAM sites added lately?
very top tier is fine
CAS is still rapant at any br bellow that tho
Makes no difference to me at WW2 brackets against the yaks-9K/UT and F4U-4/B and F6F-5s.
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I’m not often here, but I Gotta blend in with the ground players to find out if we’re getting meaningful additions to Air or not
The thread has been burnt down, refueled, and burn down again, repeatedly.
So pretty well, actually!
You mean like GRB EC? Personally, I’d love that too.
They are, and they are making very radical claims. They’re just not using the word “objective” specifically.
Not really.
Honestly, I would be more surprised if Gajin nerfed the one overpowered WW2 SPAA.
Such as…
Pe-8 and Lancaster are overpowered.
CAS cost should be doubled whilst CAP should be cheap enough to be first spawned.
SPAA should be unkillable to tanks.
SPAA should have an arcade-like lead indicator.
CAS shouldn’t see name tags on allies.
CAS should have markers so they’re always visible to SPAA.
Early SAMs (like stingers) should start at 6.7, and that’s not even the most insane CAS hater BR demand I have seen.
Or, y’know, just the very idea that TO would be good.
And bear in mind, they have it set in stone in their minds that those demands are objectively good. If you rightfully challenge any of those utterly insane demands, they will immediately start hurling insults, and say you need CAS as a crutch, and that you’re bad (even when their stats are flat out worse 90% of the time XD).
Not an outrageous claim.
Disagreeable, but not outrageous. Not sure what “CAP” is, though.
This I will agree is outrageous. I’m no expert at SPAA, but I recognize a skill issue when I see one. If I can get CAS kills in SPAA without even practicing in Arcade, others can manage just fine.
Not outrageous, but definitely disagreeable. That’s for Sim / Arcade mode.
To be honest, I haven’t left Rank III in any tree, so I can’t really comment on this one.
That’s outrageous on your part, not theirs. Just because you can’t conceive of it being any good, doesn’t mean it wouldn’t.
CAP = Close Air Patrol
basically you going for other air targets instead of tanks
who made those claims and where?
show receipts
i could just make baseless statments as well, why should anyone belive it without proof
kinda ironic when you are the guy that is talking about being objective
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Wait… that’s the exact same thing as CAS.
CAS should double in SP but also be cheap enough to be the first spawn??
Who the hell is making that request??
ppl are asking for an increase in spawn points for A2G on fighters and want a pure air to air loadout to be cheaper so that they can use that instead of AA to kill enemy planes
so you can use Air to air missiles to kill enemy CAS which is most of the time a better alternative than most of the high/ top tier AAs/ SAMs
this applies mostly to high/ top tier, for lower tiers there shouldnt be any change in the base spawn cost of planes
Yeah, I am biased in that respect.
I will admit a lot of these complaints sound like skill issues from my POV, but things like “tanks-only mode”…
Why the hell would anyone be mad about that?
No one’s holding a gun to people’s head to play it, and no one’s saying to get rid of combined arms?
If you don’t like it… then don’t play it!
Now if people ARE saying to get rid of combined arms, THEN I’ll understand the outrage, because that’s what I like to play.
But no one this thread ever said that!
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Less people who just want to play tanks → more people that are there for combined aspect of the game → harder time for air units.
Because it’s a bad idea, that Gajin said they won’t add, yet CAS haters still spam the forums with TO, and constantly derail arguments with it.
If there was a possibly of TO being added, then that would be one thing (it’s still a bad idea but whatever). The fact that we know it won’t be added, yet it’s still constantly spammed on the forums is why people hate it.
Finally, an actually good point (in a sense.)