CAS problem

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This is nothing to do with what’s been said to you.

Again, nothing to do with what’s been put forth.

You can use tanks, but it’s the choice you get to use those vehicles that makes it more appealing to some.

Others though, nametags not being there, map markers not being there, no restriction on how many times to respawn… Many reasons that you glaze over just to fixate on you needing to have the mode made for you, to suit you, not wanting to be aware of air threats.

You have SPAA, and planes you can also spawn… You’re not in a wet paper bag that you can’t fight through, you just choose to be picky and argumentative about not being agreed with.

No, they are not… You can play Arcade for all I care, then at least there you get a warning that air is a threat, but it’s not going to change my mind on the fact that allowing players to avoid the threat, doesn’t make them any better, in fact I’d say it’d make them worse due to them being so comfortable in not being aware.

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Not to mention, if they did get their own mode, just watch the next thing they want removed because they can’t actually handle playing the game and being got, plain and simple.

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3059

Bruh if you don’t have problems dealing with aircraft because you know you can take them on in arb then you should have no problem dealing with them in grb/asb/gsb in any br. Also their is aaa in arb you probably didn’t know because you either deal with pure dogfights or bvr but if you played attack aircraft and don’t just put focus on the 4 main bases you can see the tanks/ifvs/mlrs/aaa and are apart of the mission and if you listen closely when passing close to ground you can hear aaa firing near you actually if I remember correctly they nerfed the aaa bots because they killed people and it was annoying because you had to go to the hanger an re climb again and unlike grb where you can respawn. Also you loiter above people in arb/ it’s as annoying as CAS as like you said with out effort you can kill someone or go after bombers but just because it’s extremely effective doesn’t mean it should get nerfed. it’s a play style just like CAS in a way

No they don’t

Also it sounds like fun to have a mode of tanks only but its just gonna turn grb into the new naval or the tank only mode we’ll be like naval where theirs not a lot players playing to the point maps are gonna get smaller and possibly only have 5v5
Witch is why I also think they haven’t added dogfights only mode

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So You belive that majority of players would go to play TO making GRB in what You have described?

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3061

You can’t use SPAA or a plane when You are already in a tank.

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Because You say so? Again, You can try to ignore the issue but it still exists.

Of course, we should also ignore all other people on forum. Again, ignoring it wont make it disappear.

Thanks for agreeing that You have lied before. Now to correct this, what I have said is that planes are the best option. You can always try with SPAA but in most cases, Yak-9 will have the upper hand (not like against another plane).

Again, You are just proving that You haven’t played them/taken part in them and You don’t really know what You are talking about.

When You are in a tank there is nothing You can do. Should I again post video with nashorn?

There is no difference in what he said and what I have said about people who just want to play tanks.

But thanks for confirming that You are still unable to understand the core of the whole discussion.

For people who like combined aspect of the game, not for people who just want to use tanks against tanks.

Again about it? As I have said many times before, if someone has to finish the job for You, it only shows that You are not really needed.

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3065

Because what You propose doesn’t solve the issue I describe. Tank can’t be turned into SPAA or a plane.

Here:

As You have agreed later that I actually said that there is something to counter the plane (another plane):

So ye.

This is how things are in a game. I have played with and against Yak-9.

Who?

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Thats why you bring a vehicle line up. You die, you can use your braincells to process what might be best to spawn next.
If you got killed by a plane and you don’t like it, use SPAA next.

“BuT i HaVe To DiE fIrSt” Thats a you problem and you wont get an own mode for not playing the game as intended.

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So thanks for confirming there is nothing a player in a tank could do, meaning that things are unbalanced

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That’s not a lie, and my opinion of your ‘methods’ to merely be boastful and ego stroking… AKA overly proud and ignorant to the points raised to you time and time again.

Again, I don’t think you’ve EVER discussed anything, because it just comes back to dictation.

Go find them…

There are other vehiocles to use, so you constantly, saying, this, one, line, is, just, ignorant, spam…

You don’t discuss anything, you dictate everything, and troll to make people ‘removed’ from the conversation.

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Just an observation. People who heavily depend CAS often overly rely on it because they use it to compensate for their lacking skill in tanks.

CAS is literally the low risk high reward game mechanic, so of course people will need it to deal with better ground players than themselfs.

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3071

So something like big foot?

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Doubt that, your opinion on thier skill is likely based on just the vehicle that they use in this case… After all, the prejudice is showing in your post.

Not really, if they face an adequate SPAA user, they can be countered… More-so if there are more than one.

What happens with these threads is that people assume they can’t do it, so they won’t do it, then they get like the barricaded in here… Refusing to use anything to help them and demand the game change for them for no reason other than they got got.

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Well every time I look at the stats of a hard core CAS defender it shows the same picture.

Now I know you are going to say “hurr durr stats don’t indicate skill”, but we both know the real reason why you are saying this.

It really is low skill high reward. Especially in the mid tiers it’s incredibly easy to get a couple kills with CAS before SPAA gets you.

CAS decides if spaa gets them, not the other way around. SPAA can only take advantage of CAS players making a mistake.

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I’m saying it could go either way for players not wanting to play one of the game modes making longer wait times for either game mode do to player count also I’m not against tanks only mode but at the same time ME PERSONALLY I don’t see the point but ig people are just that fed up with CAS. To be honest I think instead of CAS getting annoying yall are gonna get annoyed when half the team is camping/sniping on either sides. I think gajin should start trying to bring in new game modes like someone said operations like in bf1, or lobby’s that go on for hrs and it only tdm , aircraft dogfights, and heli pvp fights

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3076

My notifications alerted me to about 60 new posts…pure, raw worthwhile discussion no doubt.

Don’t go too hard on ULQ either please…he’s doing a lot getting all the beta testing done on War Thunder for Nintendo 64.

All the screeching about aircraft, but never a word about cheesy stuff like bushes or manipulated settings. That speaks volumes about where their real motivations are…

The false flaggers are around too…I guess they don’t want the thread to get bloated, lmfao!

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Not really. Most mid tier SPAAs don’t even have 0.5 kills per game (and I’m not talking about your stats here, this is about global stats) while there is plenty of planes flying around in the mid tiers.

If the average SPAA had any significant say in shooting down planes I’m sure the global statistics would be better than that.

Whether you want to accept it or not. CAS rewards far outweigh the risk that it’s exposed to. Usually being shot down is mostly a result of a mistake from the pilot.

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Half of their purpose is deterrent and interuption, to avoid them taking a larger hit on the team.

Many of my kills are them crashing into things avoiding the fire I’m putting out.

Whilst people pride themselves too much on stats and kills, the fact is you cannot deny that with no SPAA on the field you’re a sitting duck, so any avoidance of using them based on whatever flimsy reasoning you can provide is countered by a mere presence.

You make a lot of assumptions, but that’s based on not actually using it by my guess because it really does sound like you haven’t partaken, or tried.

Or you’re just guzzling ULQs tripe tactics, and repeat them as ‘fact’.

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I’ve flown plenty of CAS and have played AA too. CAS is just super easy and low risk. You can easily avoid AA while also getting kills with bombs at the same time.

There is barely any risk until an enemy plane spawns. If I die to AA in mid tier CAS it’s usually because I either made a mistake or because I got bored and started to do stupid stuff.

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Look, I can feel you are just trying to argue because you’ve seen others trying to berate me and make me submit to thier whims, but it won’t work.

The narrative here, that you are supporting, is that there is nothing to be done, there’s no point to trying, and that spawning a plane is the only one, on the back of the SOLE fix being to remove planes from the mode so people can function…

And this is utter and absolute nonsense.

There are MANY things that can be done but these guys, no matter how much you convey a point or a suggestion WILL NOT TAKE IT ON BOARD…

And they encourage the same thing you did, where you assume I need planes to function, that I’m using them all the time, and that I’m lying when I say that I have fun getting the planes that I do.

I don’t care if I die in a match, the KDR precious do… They will make sure they don’t die to protect that KDR as it is what makes them ‘skilled’… Nothing more.

Whilst related, they are not the be-all-end-all, same with the fact of a plane being airborne, they are not invulnerable, and it’s not just because a pilot makes a ‘mistake’ that they end up got.

You oversimplify it so much that you disregard every point made, and any other angle than your own, tell people that the stats line up, when really they’re like tea leaves, and as I said, you are just playing into thier riling to make another hapless sap who will run thier yap against someone actually speaking truth to power because quite fdrankly, that’s all this is…

The power is given to them by people who make the same assumptions they do, often on thier coattails, and thus you are just being a dismissive agitator.

As I mentioned, you made out like you had checked stats, which is a waste of time in my eyes, because you should be more looking at the match, and not being that caught up on someone merely using a vehicle, in a match.

The option is there, choices can be made, and that is what makes the game what it is.

The changes here, as someone pointed out recently, are like someone wanting to play Rock only in Rock paper scissors, and that they demand to have paper taken out because they find it too hard to combat.

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