Yet you are presenting it as evidence to bolster your argument you are making in here: in the year 2025. Yet, despite the obvious, glaring flaws you admit to, you still lean on it. That is intellectually dishonest and an argumentative fallacy as we both know that the data you are leaning on is not relevant, which you admit yourself.
Anecdotal evidence, no matter the weight one may think it has, it only anecdotal evidence, thus should not be taken as anything other than subjective claims. Ever, no matter the protestations of the claimant.
Your insistence that your anecdotal evidence is more “true” than that of another is intellectually dishonest.
The 2017 data should not have been presented as anything other than a highly questionable observation based on 8 year old data, and in no way representative of anything that occurs today, unless it could be verified as representative of today’s data and the only way anyone can verify any veracity of claims made based on that data is to compare it to current data. Otherwise, it is, until proven otherwise, misinformation. Frankly, it should not have been presented at all as evidence that your argument is a valid one, and I think you know that. Since it cannot be verified as representative of today’s data, it is no better than anyone’s anecdotal evidence about what occurs now.
Frankly, using that data and presenting it as valid is not being “as fair as anyone can really be” as the use of such outdated data would be seen, should be seen, as merely a prop utilized to bolster a view that cannot be validated with current fact. It is there to confirm a bias, that is all.
Entertainingly enough, I wasn’t even the person who first mentioned the 2017 data in this thread…if you think it is biased to even discuss it here, you should consult with the person who broached it, not I.
Taking me a while to get used to this kind of gameplay, but I’ll learn it eventually. At least i can play top tier now and be able Iron Dome like these missiles as well with Japan.
Problem is now there is less CAS being played in top tier lol So won’t get much action yet.
Ummm ya, kinda obvious ain’t it. Regardless, new SAMs can do their job now to keep tankers safe. The IRST-T does a better job, but im not going to grind it.
That’s fine if you disagree. For now the TanSam came with radar and locking issues. It’s a learning curve, just will take time to adjust as well and Gaijin makes adjustments to it.
as much as i agree that CAS is annoying at times, putting it next to “Hit”, “Rats” and “Sticky trees” feels a bit disingenuous. There are way more annoying things to put instead of those 3, such as Low-Level Premium players, wonky hit registration, Ricochets, etc.
Now you are weaseling out of the hill you have planted your flag on. That you have referred to it numerous times, then when called on it you point in another direction is in itself intellectually dishonest.
At least if you are going to plant your flag on a hill be ready to die on that hill and not point to the other guy and say: “He started it!”
Not at all…you seem to still be confused about what I said:
When I spoke about the 2017 data, it was only ever in the context of what things were like in 2017. Though I have seen similar trends persist in the time since, I did not claim 2017 data proved this (as you suggest). I discussed how 2017 data reflected upon 2017 realities…and that’s about it. If others cannot grasp that, that’s their issue and not mine.
The only thing that’s intellectually dishonest here is blaming me for others’ poor reading comprehension and the false claim that I said something I did not.
All in all, I’m not sure why you continue to press on with this. I did not claim the 2017 data to prove anything current…so what are you even talking about?
The recon drones are good if you play in squad beside you need to choose fire missile on recon drone or jet or helicopter unless you can down them fast like JuicyKuuuuki.
Even a player who is just shouting out targets with the recon drone is handy.
I only really have the Stormer so I can never shoot down recon drones ha ha
Recon drones can be a make-or-break on brawl maps. Knowing where every enemy is such an insane advantage for better players- less for decent players, but still insanely good.
you should, so you can see how annoyingly shit it still is to intercept Kh38s.
Atleast the SLM can to some point deal with CAS players that are just plain ol dumb and let themselves be seen by the radar until the missile switches to IR tracking. But you can still completely bamboozle the SLM by flying low to break direct line of sight before the missile has the chance to switch to IR.
Planes that fire off a missile or bomb also make the IRIST SL switch targetting from plane to missile unless they have already switched to the terminal IR guidance.
Intercepting MLs or MTs is a hit or miss due to the radar and sometimes they proxy without destroying the missile.
i wouldnt say they can fully “keep tankers safe”, id just say its an improvement over the previously available SPAAs
Actually, it is your issue and not theirs. The manner in which you continue, even now, to lean into the use of the 2017 data, even though you admit that it is not only dated but not even contextual to the debate unless it can be verified as valid, is an argumentative fallacy that you used solely to bolster your view.
You can assert all you wish in regard to how you “meant” to use the data but we both know that most readers will not pay attention to that “disclaimer” and either take that data as valid, or only see the data and argue against the data.
The use of such data, despite your “disclaimers” is intellectually dishonest. Then to argue that you did not intend the data to be used in any other manner than to “reflect” the data based upon the “realities” of eight years ago, in a debate today, is a weasely way to declare: “The data is bad, I know it is bad but I used it anyway because it fit my view. I also know that most will not pay attention, or challenge, the fact that the data is eight years old and is most likely not reflective of today, but I am going to use it anyway because I am counting on others ignorance.”
