CAS problem

[БЕИ]

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[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@Sytryse

Imagine that TO mode is put into game then I’m sure 90% would play TO mode instead playing the CA mode and leaving people like you in 6vs6 battle.

So you understand why TO mode will never be a thing and people should cope with what they signed up for, which is combined arms.

[Hudler]

Bascally: “We can’t improve the game because people will want to play improved games”

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

No because people spend a lot of money for planes to use them in GRB and Gaijin is not going to throw that away.

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

And improved game is a very subjective opinion.

[ULQ_LOVER]

I like that it is overall accepted that TO won’t be a thing because people would play it instead of current gamemode

[Hudler]

Nobody is throwing anything.

People who has cas will still play it in GRB.

@Ghost_of_TelAviv

And improved game is a very subjective opinion.

It lierally is not. Adding TO makes everybody happy:

• players who do not want to bother with CAS will enjoy their tanks with other players who think the same.
• players who want to use CAS will enjoy their CAS with other players who think the same.

[warrior412]

@ULQ_LOVER

It was as many tanks weren’t able to properly enter the battlefield before air arrived and destroyed them.

Examples such as T95, Maus etc

I recall the complaints being centered on sheer size and slow entry into battle…not anything really centered on enemy aircraft.

Regardless, that framing means things wouldn’t bode well for them on AF mode maps…

@Hudler

Irrelevent.

It is entirely relevant, as I said and now as others have verified.

@Hudler

Tell me how can i spawn in tank or heli or spaa while playing ARB.
Tell me how can i spawn a tank in naval.

That you cannot do those things does not mean CA doesn’t exist there. It exists in a different form than what you are expecting, for similar reasons in both.

Would you like to be in a tank sinking in the waters of the NF mode?

@Hudler

You still tak abou AI…

I discussed AI units in the AF modes because that is how CA exists in the AF modes. AI surface units are there because it would not practical for players to be there (due primarily to the distances involved).

@Hudler

Maybe it’s problem with you all, that you treat ground players and AI targets the same. You think about ground players as simple bots to just bomb them, and you just don;'t care about them

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Aside from the comical, unprovoked generalization…I have tons of play time in RB GFs. I am very familiar with the mode from both sides, so please spare me all that…it’s flatly strange to go off on such a tangent.

That you’d say what you did shows that you don’t know how/what I think about these things.

[Hudler]

@ULQ_LOVER

I like that it is overall accepted that TO won’t be a thing because people would play it instead of current gamemode

Yeah, this is the best thing in all this.

“NO, we don’t want game to improve”

[ULQ_LOVER]

@warrior412

I recall the complaints being centered on sheer size and slow entry into battle…not anything really centered on enemy aircraft.

I recall something different.

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@Hudler

It lierally is not. Adding TO makes everybody happy:

I don’t know, the other guy said “enjoy your 6vs6 games”.
I wouldn’t call that beeing happy.

If it will be like this nobody knows, since the forum is by far not representig the majority of players.
But i am betting Gaijin is not going to split the playerbase and risks losing money.

[Hudler]

Honestly, i will not be repeating the same talking points week by week.

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

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[GALWAYLION-live]

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[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@GALWAYLION

No, I signed up for GROUND battles. Nowhere in “Ground Realistic Battles” and “Ground Simulator Battles” does it imply planes

Maybe read the description of said mode.

[GALWAYLION-live]

Then don’t call it Ground battles. That’s false advertising. Call it Combined Arms Realistic and Combined Arms Simulator. Don’t lie to me and promise a tank game and then proceed to make it ARB/ASB

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@GALWAYLION

Then don’t call it Ground battles. That’s false advertising.

It’s not, you just didn’t bother to read the description or get informations what the game is about from other sources.

[GALWAYLION-live]

“Read the description”
Yeah, I did. That’s not ground battles, that’s combined arms. Doesn’t change the fact that majority of us here want a Tanks Only mode. Sure, I play CAS, but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t enjoy grinding my tanks without having 3,000kgs dropped on me at 4.0

[warrior412]

@БЕИ

How you define the importance of player group is also rather ignorant based on real-world standards, you don’t understand what is more important and less important when it comes to a business stand point?

I understand that the suggestion to abandon the central premise and selling point of something is a bizarre business strategy. It’d be very strange to see PETA get into the slaughterhouse business.

It’s really no different with WT: the suggestion that Gaijin could/would convert RB GFs into TO and that’d just be warmly received is…strange. Players who went into RB GFs for the mode as-is would be ‘perturbed’ by such a change to put it mildly.

That’s all I ever said, which is why your response was so peculiar to me. You don’t agree with that?

As for the rest, you really went off into the weeds:

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@БЕИ

Let me break it down why your personal view regarding your “WT players and the lesser WT players group” is rather flawed in so many ways if you insisting that one make a louder noise than the other

Yeah…I never said any of that. Please do not falsely attribute such things to me, as I did not say them.

[quote=“БЕИ, post:1647, topic:216490”]
let’s use you as example, you have over 70k matches in your record, ALL low tier matches with no matches past rank V…and with nearly no premium vehicles in your account[/quote]

I guess you’re looking at someone else’s profile, as that’s not me. To correct you:

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• I have thousands and thousands of matches played, well into the higher tiers (5.X+ is by no means ‘low tier’)–including dozens of rank V vehicles and thousands of plays with those alone

• I possess a ton of the available premium vehicles, though I’ll acknowledge that a large portion of these were ‘acquired’ rather than purchased (nothing wrong with doing events, tasks and WBs!)

• I have had a premium account for years now

All in all, your incorrect framing of what my hangar looks like and what I’ve done only undercuts your credibility…much of this is wholly public info. Either you are misinformed or you knowingly posted wrong info and each destroys your credibility.

As with my earlier comment, what you’ve said here reflects more upon you than it ever does upon me.

You are the one pushing an elitist framing that paying money makes one ‘more’ of a player than others…not I. That doesn’t work in F2P games and it certainly doesn’t work against players who have also supported the game as I have.

@БЕИ

So coming from someone who freeloads the game server since the beginning of the time, and does the bare minimum in supporting the company

Playing the game routinely and tossing money to them often enough =/= freeloading, lol

People who simply play the game without purchasing anything are players as much as the folks that max out their parents’ credit cards–that’s how F2P game keep functional and maintain populations.

@БЕИ

you do have a lot of nerve divide player group just to make yourself feels more important

You’re calling a whole swath of the your fellow players “freeloaders” but I am dividing people? C’mon man…this isn’t comedy night.

@БЕИ

seal club is bad sport, you bullied new players just so you can feel strong

Playing against the people the match maker puts one against is neither sealclubbing nor trying to feel strong. MM is done based upon the vehicles of your lineup, not the players involved–you ought to know that.

@БЕИ

I am not surprised you are one of the more persistent CAS advocates who fear the change

I appreciate this humor, but again you’re wrong: I advocate for balance, not any favoritism for CAS or anything else. That you feel such a moderate stance favors aircraft is commentary in itself.

Opposing anti-aircraft bias and rigging the game against aircraft =/= a pro-CAS stance, it’s just balance.

I’m not sure how/why you’d think I ‘fear’ TO when I’ve tried to help it toward implementation…I was the one who explained how the idea could be advanced (with a proposal and the ‘trigger-queue’ idea)

@БЕИ

threatens his dominance or perceived skill level

My skill is above average; I don’t have any real issues with dying to aircraft, in spite of plenty of time at ranges like 5.7-7.X where everything from P-47s to A2Ds reside.

I’m not the professional eSports guys, but I am clearly outpacing some as I evade aircraft well enough.

You ought to recant your original post…it was wholly out of turn.

[GALWAYLION-live]

At least you are honest enough to recognise that Tanks Only would be the best thing for the game, but it won’t happen because of people who rely on hiding in the sky to get free eliminations.