ive been side by side with a pantsir in my adats. while he looked at his phone he did nothing and i shot 3 down, he was destryed right after that. are stats like that going to tell you the adats is better than the pantsir?
No, but it still shows that while SPAAs have shot down 3 aircraft, only one SPAA was destroyed.
Well i wouldn’t “test” It. If i had all the stats Gaibin could ever provide:
Id look at trying to categorize games in to broad categories for gamestates.
Then begins the fun game of seeing what kills spaa, what kills planes. Look at the KD relationships, what time the deaths occured, the distribution of how many kills before death.
Do so for each “category” of game, and graph it with when these thing occur at a given time in a match.
Thats how i would do it with very limited knowledge pf how you handle large complicated datasets. And then at the end of it hopefully having learned something
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so in games where were being spawn camped and spaas die trying to look for planes and die with 0 kills that shows what?
stats dont show the whole picture, if player has the ability to kill spaas out of theyr range so can other players.
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Are they being destroyed by tanks? Or by aircraft that sneak up on them. If they are destroyed by spawncamping tanks, the stats do not flow into the category of “SPAA killed by aircraft”.
If we follow @ULQ_LOVER’s line of argumentation, ehich is based on anecdotes, I could claim that Tier I SPAA is effective against every type of aircraft, because I once shot down a G.91 that came at me with a Nord while sitting in a Ta-Se (a long time before the Nord-nerf) and survived.
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both. its chaos. but that wont show in stats. in any case stats wont show the capabilities of vehicles. even if you say only 1 in 10 players can has the ability to kill spaas out of theyr range you only need 1 player in a team to do that.
i shot down a mig29 with my black night. is it effective at taking down aircraft? you cant look at stats to see what a vehicle can do
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Yes, stats don’t show the capabilities of individual vehicles, but they show the results that these capabilities lead to in the Ground RB environment.
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Difference I have done it much more times ;)
ok so if its proven x player can kill spaas at more than theyr range in a vacuum the spaa is not effective.
and you can look at global stats and see ground kills by cas vs cas kills by ground vehicles. do show
I can not look at global stats and I have never claimed to be able to do that. ;)
What I provided so far have been statistics gathered over the course of ten matches per Tier. What ULQ and the other tanks purists provide are individual statistics picked by their results to “prove a point”.
Also in the case of @ULQ_LOVER’s corsair “outside the effective range” = +2km away, which means that his HVARs, which he uses for these kills travel for more than five seconds. Any success with these rockets is therefore based on luck, since a ground target can easily move out of the killzone within these five seconds.
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Just to make things clear … effectiveness means doing the right things. Efficiency means doing things right.
It can never be wrong to spawn a SPAA if you don’t got a fighter.
But to be efficient with it you need skill.
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oh this stats actually remind me of the funniest one, the stormer HVM. gaijin once sayd the top br rating was because stats showed it was one of the top 3 spaas in the game when everyone tryed to tell them it wasnt.
now they dont know how to fix it. stats are amazing at nothing in this game
*500 - 1000 [m]
Three seconds are still enough to dodge, even by chance and any SPAA player who can’t reliably hit within 1000m needs some practice.
I would love to see You hitting the air target at the distance of 1000m which is aware of You ;)
1 ive spawned with SPAA and the enemy never spawned with CAS, funny that your misson rewzrd is based on Activity. . 2nd who is going to tell other players what to spawn.
I do that quite often, also I do not know why you always assume that everyone is aware of my position. Besides, as pointed out above, ground units usually massively outnumber air units. If an enemy is aware of me, for whatever reason, a teammate might still get the jump on him.
Please provide server replay link then, I would like to see that.
I will, whenever I decide to play the tiers that are being discussed again. Right now I am grinding top tier equipment.
I will be waiting