Caproni Ca183 bis

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Description: The Caproni Ca183 bis was an Italian hybrid turboprop/jet aircraft of the Second World War made by the Italian company Caproni. After 1940, the Italian engineer Second Campini started to design and project a new fighter based on his previous experience with the already existing Caproni Campini C.C.2 experimental jet aircraft. The new aircraft was designed to satisfy the Regia Aeronautica requirement for a new high-altitude, pressurized interceptor. It was also the Caproni trial to become one of the few producers of DB605-powered aircraft in a market where only Fiat, Reggiane, and Macchi were present. The aircraft was equipped with a Daimler Benz DB605 with two counter-rotating blades in the front and a Fiat A.30 in the back. The second engine was pretty old and wasn’t very powerful, but it wasn’t intended to work like a normal engine. Indeed, it’s only purpose was to power the Campini compressor. This compressor was the same as the Caproni Campini N1, the first Italian jet ever built. It’s purpose was to give the aircraft a jet engine to gather more speed in some periods of the flight to reach enemy aircraft and higher altitudes faster. The aircraft was equipped with various air vents on the side to avoid the overheating of the second engine and to make the compressor functional. The project was judged very advanced for the time being, and some people thought that Italy didn’t have the industrial capability to mass produce it. This could probably be true, but regardless, in 1942, the construction of a prototype was started by the company. Indeed, it is worth mentioning that the Regia Aeronautica never ordered a prototype; it was basically a private venture of the company in order to build an innovative plane that could interest the Regia Aeronautica. When the armistice arrived in December 1943, it was reported that the prototype was 80% complete, and the works were stopped due to this event. Later, after the Italian Social Republic was founded, the company continued to work on the prototype. Unfortunately, it is reported that it met its fate in 1944, when one of the allied bomber raids on the company destroyed it.

Why it should be in game: It could give to the Italian tt a very powerfoul and fast interceptor between the G56 and the Vampire. It will also be the first prop with an “afterburner” in game.

Specifications

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Wing Span: 21 m
Height: 4,10 m
Lenght: 15,45 m
Empty weight: 5200 kg
Full wight: 7500 kg
Max speed (no termojet): 740 km/h
Max speed (with termojet): 832 km/h
Engine: 1x Alfa-Romeo “Tifone”(Daimler-Benz DB-605) making 1,250 hp driving a six blade contrarotating propellor.
1x FIAT A.30 radial piston engine making 700 hp driving the Campini engine
Range: 1,242 miles
Crew: 1
Armament: 4x 20 mm MG151 cannons in the wings and 1x 30 mm MK108 (or 20 mm MG151) cannon between the cylinder banks of the engine

Sources

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Italian Aircraft of WWII: Caproni Campini Ca.183bis
Might Have Beens: Italian Twin-Engined Fighters, 1943
Caproni Campini Ca.183bis - Wikipedia
Books
Aerei Nella Storia 4-5/2009
L+K 1996/6

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An absolute +1 from me

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+1 blinks Wtf is that!?

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I want this plane with all my heart +1-

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Cool asf sadly no pics of it survived :( but +1 regardless

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This is so cool! I love mixed-power aircraft, and that armament is pretty powerful too! +1

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+1 we need early jets

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My gosh
Where have you been all my life

Absolutely
+100

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Just inverted Turboprop engine.
Instead of Jet engine running propeler blades, Motojet is an inline engine running compressor of Jet engine( it have advantage over standard that it lack turbine which have a tendency to explode)

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+1! Event vehicle spotted!

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This is such a cool plane and would be a perfect addition to fill the gap between the 6.3 props and 8.0 jets. It’s also really unique because i don’t think there are any other planes in war thunder to utilize both prop and jet at the same time (though someone might correct me on that).

+1 i would play the shit out of this plane!

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There could be similar aircraft mig-13(I-250) but this had worse design by using power from main engine to run compressor


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They used the same sistem in fact.

I wouldn’t be suprised if they tried stolen/brought/exhanged plans to see how this work for them

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They “compared” it like with the Sukhoi SU-24?

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I need to dig into Mig-13 to answers this certainly

(I was joking that for the SU-24 they copied the Mirage G8 and the F111 and they admitted it. But later the propaganda said that the checked if they were doing all right)

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one of the most coolest early jets!

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The power output for the engine is split between a propeller and a turbine with each creating paracitic resistance depending on the speed the plane is going, meaning you effectively get the worst of both worlds as opposed to the best of both worlds. I think that the italians’ decision of having a seperate engine for the turbine gives the plane a much better way to control the thrust of each propultion technique rather than having to rely on two seperate gearboxes for the same engine.

Just a shame that the italians decided to use a biplane engine for the turbine instead of a periodicly modern engine.

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This was more or less my point, thank you for explaining in detail

I think that engine choice was more about size and how easy it will be to aquire one. There were some works around top of the line engines to be used for motojet construction(with full power). I’m currently researching other Campini’s projects where he experimented with DB601 and 605 as compressor power source

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