Why? I want to play the “Realistic” mode but with as much realism as possible. I don’t like Enduring Confrontation.
your problem
Why?
You don’t like the damage therefore it needs to change for the sake of realism.
I don’t like all the crutch skill-robbing mechanics like mouse aim (lol 1km+ head ons) or 3rd person view (try checking low six o clock in something like F6F in cockpit view) that break my immersion and are unrealistic.
Mouse joystick already exists. You can learn to play with that or go play arcade with idiot mode red markers.
tbh i actually quite enjoy the dmg
Cool. You are in the majority of players then.
This is a thread about reducing damage to lower than whatever it was 3+ years ago. Because someone’s P-47 KD got ruined in a head-on…in Sim.
im aware of that ty
not rlly relevant info
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So anyways do you feel better?
Why should I be told to go play arcade if I am happy with current damage model and not onboard with whatever shenanigans is decided to be realistic by the 4 people here that want everything to be nerf guns?
but there is a difference between stuff i enjoy and stuff i think is correct
im not here to argue about what is realistic and what isnt
im here to argue about what is fair and what isnt
Why should fairness outweight realism?
What if all guns got the same ballistics and damage? That would be fair no?
it’s the next step if you already merged section damage with 30mm, do you really want it?
7.7mm with ballistics of a 37mm hvap sound good I suppose.
and make sure to add firerate too, same 37mm with firerate of 2000RPM
That or we add separate damage types and levels for each shell in order to keep firerates and ballistics different.
No. Just make them the same so German mains can stop coping about “muh ballistics” because that was the same cope 5+ years ago about US 20mm & .50 cals.
Tell everybody to stop coping because they didn’t read a number and didn’t think that maybe shell types outside of “yellow” exist.
And maybe since you want people to leave this game, leave, enjoy your Il-2 and don’t come back. Maybe it’s time to move on and leave a another person in your lobby slot who is actually passionate about this game a bit.
I have probably played more War Thunder than you have. I have the number of weekly games required to post. My opinion is just as valid (more so) than yours. Cope.
So many battles yet you only defend yourself with “I play Il-2”, “I play Sim”, “german mains are idiots” and now statshaming.
0 actual arguments outside of “rewards instant mechanical skill” of just clicking “fire” at the right time ONCE and ensuring your belts have the most amount of yellow.
I expected a lot of you and you served me a nothing burger with extra nothing.
I play the most realistic game mode in the game. You play Mickey-Mouse Aim Red Marker mode who’s only extent of realism is that it has real in the name.
Any other argument?
Actual arguments on cannons or just, “im better because I play (X)!, Look at me im from 201X!, Im a fucking cunt who still holds grudge from god knows where”
You are losing an argument to someone, in your own words, plays mickey-mouse click mode and “barely” played for 2 years. Shame on you.
Because I never saw you trying to actually justify how the current damage system benefits the game outside of “community known for basically playing their own game like shit said so”
Meanwhile I simply wrote this, which makes relevant AP, Armor, filler, shell construction, firerates, cannon quantity, self sealing tanks, neutral gas tanks and EFS.
And also how it raises skill floor and naturally brings balance because more factors in an aircraft design start to make sense. Which does actually make better gameplay because there’s a flavour for everybody to enjoy? A lot more in-depth engagements? An actual difference in approaches that isn’t “don’t headon this plane” or “Don’t turn with this plane”?
Because the moment I actually start to find decent sim lobbies for once, half of your defense falls away just like that. Do you realize the stupidity you spew and try to defend with simply a veteran badge and a I play X gamemode and X game with a teeny higher skill floor?
Last time I loaded into ARCADE, which I suppose is the super dumb player pit in your world, I was completely obliterated because each mode requires a different set of skills simply.
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It does make a noticeable difference, MG151/15 was extremely reliable! Would be right up there for my favorite cannons if it wasn’t on such an unenjoyable plane. Maybe if we get a late Arado 196 I’ll get a good time using them.
Yes, because losing to arbitrary ticket bleeds that often favored one team in particular was no fun at all. You can still experience this wonderful gameplay in the older maps such as the Pacific ones, where in one of them you must dedicate 1-2 people from the start of the match to just sink landing crafts, otherwise each one will spawn like 3 Sherman tanks and become a near guaranteed defeat
bombers used to dominate every single match due to extremely strong aimbot gunners and damage models, you could even park your plane on the enemy airfield and survive for a long time
why do you think that now if you do that, there will be a timer counting down to where you get captured and your plane is abandoned?
A-26s are pretty tough, you don’t need to pen those armor plates if you are SLIGHTLY off-center.
So certain aspects of un-realism are desirable, yes?
this is doing the same thing
2 HE + 1 AP is, in my experience, right about the optimal load, unless your cannons are 30mm+ and you no longer need the AP to get through armor and reduce time to kill at certain angles
There’s that. Though when they weren’t, that was a lot of firepower even on A-5/U2 model with just those two guns.
4 cannons already feels like a big upgrade and this is reflected on the BR system
buy VR so you can simply stand up in the cockpit, walk out to the wing, and check who’s behind you )))
30mm also hits much harder than 20s, with the only things usually making them not worth using being extremely poor velocity (MK108) or much higher BRs and availability (pretty much everything else).
even the content creators who play this game religiously hated the bad gun damage
Mate I’ve provided multiple videos of literally 1-2 20mm cannon rounds eviscerating aircraft. That last video I shared a Spitfire with two cannons chopped my massive P108’s tail clean off in what appeared to be a single round. In a previous video my LaGG-3’s singular Shvak ripped the tail clean off of a twin engine German bomber in a microscopic last second burst. I don’t see how having 4x cannons can kill faster than that.
30mm’s are zero benefit in this game especially in WW2 tiers, as stated multiple times as little as two 20mm rounds can at times even knock out a bomber, Breda’s can knock out large bombers in a single pass as well. The only thing 30mm’s achieve in this game is making your aircraft harder to use in the way of ballistics and potentially an unfair BR.
The downfall of many games is when developers listen to the “pro content creators!”, case in point look at the APHE nerf that absolutely should have happened. It’s not realistic and it most definitely isn’t balanced.
The nerf/realism side was winning the vote right until certain content creators screamed that “realistic APHE would be unfair!!11!!, the entire game would need to be remade!” (hilariously ironic and bullsjit to go with it) and look what happened. The fangirls of said channels rushed to the vote and pushed Gaijin to abandon the nerf, you can literally see the graphic and the massive jump in votes when this happened.
In the end APHE didn’t get a nerf and was buffed instead, a round that already defeated physics making 99% of shots an automatic one-hit kill…got made even better!
I mean Jesus Christ look what happened to Call of Duty where the devs listened to the “pro’s!”.
Also to clarify just because they’re a YouTuber that doesn’t make them any more right than you nor me, they may want to pretend that’s the case but at the end of the day they’re just a dweeb like us behind a computer with an opinion, as the famous quote says: “opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one”.
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does that mean anything
no?
good
then why are we mentioning it?
uhhh
no
your opinion isnt more valid than anyone others opinion
stop projecting dude
yes
not rlly
50cals are a thing
and if you only nerf 20mms we have the problem that a certain american weapon would overperform very badly