Only the A-10A Late gets 4 AIM-9L and its 10.7. You barely see that one.
The A-10A Early is the premium and gets 2 missiles.
Sure, it has the best turn rate, but that’s the tradeoff. Instead of being really fast, it acts like a prop would.
And I’m not really sure what you mean by radius in this case. There’s a lot of things the A-10 does well due to its design, but once again, speed is not one of them.
Sure, but they’re always visible and lack the mobility to get into advantageous positions.
You can tell when someone is AFK just by watching them for a few seconds. If you need help, some videos teach you the methods on Youtube.
If you’re flareless, like the T-2, there are plenty of other threats to worry about that just the A-10. Not to mention the T-2 has a very competitive airframe regardless. You can also use rockets to act as flares if you get desperate enough.
I don’t see how my logic of a Prop plane’s mobility remotely compares to a Mach 2 Rafale. Feel free to explain that.
I never said rush them. They will almost always be the last ones alive due to their speed. You can pick off their aid and reliably down them.
That’s the only one I’ve played in, and afaik it’s great for ARB A2A
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We have spotting in arb. As long as it’s not stuck in some bugs everyone is quite visible.
And what advantageous position do you need if you have the lock for a 9L and a nose pointing for GAU8?
9.7-10.0/ 10.0-10.3 a10 was the top threat for flareless 9.x s. Other guys need to see your tail to shoot, 9L doesn’t really care. You may be in a duel, a10 loves it. Furball? Similar. One guy hanging high away? A10 doesn’t even have to care.
10.3/10.7 is better now, and yes 10.7 does go to 11.7 - by which mp can be used and the gun’s still the best.
Get behind and shoot is generic.
a10 can turn so getting behind a10 is not the same as getting behind afk guy.
So:
Is the same unpractical as All you need to do to get a rafale is get behind them and gun them.
qed
Are we talking about a10c or a10a?
A10c is indeed usually the last guy for the speed. A10a nah.
Sure, but many aircraft at that BR are great. There’s nothing overpowered about the airframe. The Su-25 is much better for air-to-air than the A-10 as well.
There are many radius things in this game. You should be specific.
The A-10 is not just visible, but going prop speed at all times. It’s especially vulnerable.
The AIM-9L doesn’t have any kind of super performance at low altitudes with the dense air. The missile itself isn’t going much further than 2 kilometers. Even then, it doesn’t have an IRCCM and often gets tricked by the slightest countermeasure popping.
As for the Gau8, it’s an amazing gun with a great ammunition supply. It’s a strong weapon for a turnfighter that gets its kills from the gun, not the missiles.
The thing about the A-10 is that it’s a defensive fighter. It doesn’t initiate the fight; it reacts. You almost always get the first attempt on them.
You’re still failing to see the difference here. Other airframes have the ability to easily reach an opponent’s rear, the A-10 does not. They’re relatively equal. If they weren’t, you would have a better KD in it since you claimed it’s that strong.
And correct.
Not even lol. The Rafale sits at 14.0 where Fox-3 missiles are. Don’t even bother comparing the two. Anyone can reasonably see the absurd difference between an A-10 and a Rafale that can compare to an F-15E.
All A-10 usually end up dying last or near last because they take longer to reach the battlefield.
As I’ve been talking about performance and trt, turn radius shouldn’t be hard to guess.
If only he can suppress the opponent with the GAU8, and his opponents are not using gsh or nr.
We are not shooting aim9x. Hold for a most promising shot. Those flareless guys won’t stand a chance
Bad psychological guess.
Yep. And it’s very enjoyable to react in this one.
Quote: Amazing gun with a great ammunition supply…
I knew these Antimeches will make stat shamers happy xD
Hey your stats
O I should stop
You can kill RFL when you are close behind him ain’t it :D
mig23ml and f4s flies faster and dies faster. 10.7± matches? People still need to work on the opponent longer.
More climbers also means more chance to meet those who are still diving to a10s.
You already mentioned its turn radius? Why would I assume you meant is again?
If they’re beyond 2 kilometers and flying smart, it will never hit. Even the AIM-9M struggles to hit targets at super close range.
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That’s what it’s good at.
No speed, and the opponent needs to fly into your sight.
I didn’t shame you. 1.5 KD is good, but not insane. You claimed the vehicle is overpowered, but your stats don’t show that. They just show the plane being good.
This, however, is statshaming.
You’re still not understanding the difference.
First Mig-23 players are at 11.0. The first F-4E’s are 11.3. You still see them regularly in both the A-10A.
This game is TDM and at some point you or somebody else, but often you if you’re the “good player” of the lobby, will have to go 1v1 a plane that can delete you if it looks anywhere near you.
You are ignorant of the reasoning as to why the A-10 is problematic to flareless jets.
If you’re not that good you also can’t go around telling other people they are lesser for complaining about something that you yourself are not that good to deal with.
That’s cope, I’ve knocked supersonics out with AIM-9L at 5km in side aspect shots and up to 4+ when they try to actually take advantage of their higher speed and run (easy rear aspect shot). Some aircraft that are “faster” get locked at 3+ km and knocked out at 6+ KM if they aren’t redlining their speed after attempting to attack an A-10.
If you don’t have flares and fly 9.7 BR, A-10s are 6+km death spheres that you just have to avoid and hope they waste their missiles on AI. Or go back down to 9.3 and below and grind something with flares.
Occasionally they get trolled by a co-launch AIM-9B killing their missile but that’s both rare and difficult to intentionally do. Not a viable strategy when most stuff doesn’t even have four missiles to throw back.
Edit: anyway to answer OP’s question. You “can” dodge AIM-9L *without flares.
*As long as they’re fired from extreme range, you are flying at high enough speed to bleed the missile of energy, or get behind a solid object so the missile loses track and flies into it.
Alternately, you can attempt to just stay so close to the enemy that the missile can’t pull enough G off the rail to actually hit you (likely to get you gunned down).
Can you dodge a front aspect AIM-9L? Not really. Maybe the F-104 can get past the A-10 before it can lock them if it sneaks up on them, but if any front aspect missile carrier is paying attention and has their missiles ready, they’ll lock and launch on you way before you can get out of the way.
Just don’t touch the A-10 and it won’t touch you. I often fly to bomb ground targets and along the way shoot down 3-4 planes that are trying to shoot me down. The A-10 is the attack aircraft that can fight back.
to add a random guys 2 cents, The a10 and su25’s should have come with rear aspect missiles instead of all aspect. (At least for the A variants and first 25’s) Would’ve made them fairly easy to balance while not pissing on anybody without flares.
Though to add to the discussion, best bet for all aspect carriers are to just avoid them or take them out while their not paying attention. (Tai_wan said it best more or less) and if you need a plane to dodge, look for ones like the ariete. Good energy retention with high turn rates.
Only way you are getting killed from that far out is if your a stall fighting someone else.
1-3km works for any aspect.
3-4km works for front and side aspect. Rear if they are slow.
4-5km only for side that are slow or rear that are very slow.
I love the “just flare bro” comments as they forget that jets as low as 9.3 are fighting A-10s, like how is a subsonic jet with zero flares supposed to fight all aspect missiles?
You could face them only in full uptier. All of them have only 2 missiles.
I didn’t see any SU25/A10 at alt over weeks. They all ground pounding and carry too much payload.
If you have AIM9Bs → you can go headon with them, prepare your missile, if he fires his, shoot yours and it’s done.
Half of the lobby is able to carry rocket pods. Reliable fake flares if you know how.
At events I fly a lot 9.3. Can’t remember the last death by all aspect missile…