probably just the better rear aspect seekers then
In conclusion, for OP
- You usually can’t evade AIM-9L fired from A-10A within 2km if you don’t have either CM or Speed.
Don’t get close and KEEP FLYING FAST - You can bring rocket pods as a makeshift flare against them. for dealing with frontal attack.
and addition.
- You can try shooting AIM-9L down directly with your AIM-9B as a last resort, but it is a bit risky gambit.
I had one or two? experience about taking tone of them and successed. Maybe because the missile is burning hot enough. But you know, AIM-9B is rear aspect. So don’t trust them too much.
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it is, i never said it wasnt good, it claps most things in a fight.
heres the thing, i dont screw up against them if i have the angle since the Mig21s has an excellent gun thats easy to use. usually i get boxed in with an A10 in front which is why im asking if you can roll their missiles.
so it can be done, i never tried but if i have to, ill try, maybe the seeker will go bananas or something.
You can’t roll most missiles past the AIM-9B. Anything above about 14G pull and you can’t outpull them without special methods.
what? ive rolled r73s in the mirage 2000, what the hell are you talking about. You can roll 20G SARH too lmao.
9Ls go for anything with a bit of heat. Just spam rockets, that’ll defeat an Aim-9L most of the time. Heck, Ive even had rockets defeat an Aim-9M before
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You cannot “roll” an R-73. You can kill its energy, but you physically cannot out-G an R-73.
You choose how to die, A10 chooses how to feast. I’ve barely pulled 2-3 9Ls back in the days in my mig19… And they changed seekers a few times so I’m not quite sure about how bad, but would still be far from easy.
Get behind a rafale and you can gun him down in reserve plane.
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That’s a strawman argument.
There is a clear difference between a sub-mach A-10A and a Mach 2 Rafale with Thrust Vectoring Fox-3 missiles.
With the best turn rate, the best radius, the best cannon and the most cm, and also 4 9L + the choice to proceed to ground pound.
He can just turn to you. If he’s distracted? Why not assume he’s afk climbing. And think about that possibly flareless teammate taking his attention - or not, for he’s starting to disengage.
No strawman needed. Just using your logic.
Oh and, getting behind the a10 by climbing at the start of the match is a well known tactic since they added a10. Yes you will have a chance to attack. No a10 hounds never die out for this.
Only the A-10A Late gets 4 AIM-9L and its 10.7. You barely see that one.
The A-10A Early is the premium and gets 2 missiles.
Sure, it has the best turn rate, but that’s the tradeoff. Instead of being really fast, it acts like a prop would.
And I’m not really sure what you mean by radius in this case. There’s a lot of things the A-10 does well due to its design, but once again, speed is not one of them.
Sure, but they’re always visible and lack the mobility to get into advantageous positions.
You can tell when someone is AFK just by watching them for a few seconds. If you need help, some videos teach you the methods on Youtube.
If you’re flareless, like the T-2, there are plenty of other threats to worry about that just the A-10. Not to mention the T-2 has a very competitive airframe regardless. You can also use rockets to act as flares if you get desperate enough.
I don’t see how my logic of a Prop plane’s mobility remotely compares to a Mach 2 Rafale. Feel free to explain that.
I never said rush them. They will almost always be the last ones alive due to their speed. You can pick off their aid and reliably down them.
And?
That’s the only one I’ve played in, and afaik it’s great for ARB A2A
fr?
We have spotting in arb. As long as it’s not stuck in some bugs everyone is quite visible.
And what advantageous position do you need if you have the lock for a 9L and a nose pointing for GAU8?
9.7-10.0/ 10.0-10.3 a10 was the top threat for flareless 9.x s. Other guys need to see your tail to shoot, 9L doesn’t really care. You may be in a duel, a10 loves it. Furball? Similar. One guy hanging high away? A10 doesn’t even have to care.
10.3/10.7 is better now, and yes 10.7 does go to 11.7 - by which mp can be used and the gun’s still the best.
Get behind and shoot is generic.
a10 can turn so getting behind a10 is not the same as getting behind afk guy.
So:
Is the same unpractical as All you need to do to get a rafale is get behind them and gun them.
qed
Are we talking about a10c or a10a?
A10c is indeed usually the last guy for the speed. A10a nah.
Sure, but many aircraft at that BR are great. There’s nothing overpowered about the airframe. The Su-25 is much better for air-to-air than the A-10 as well.
There are many radius things in this game. You should be specific.
The A-10 is not just visible, but going prop speed at all times. It’s especially vulnerable.
The AIM-9L doesn’t have any kind of super performance at low altitudes with the dense air. The missile itself isn’t going much further than 2 kilometers. Even then, it doesn’t have an IRCCM and often gets tricked by the slightest countermeasure popping.
As for the Gau8, it’s an amazing gun with a great ammunition supply. It’s a strong weapon for a turnfighter that gets its kills from the gun, not the missiles.
The thing about the A-10 is that it’s a defensive fighter. It doesn’t initiate the fight; it reacts. You almost always get the first attempt on them.
You’re still failing to see the difference here. Other airframes have the ability to easily reach an opponent’s rear, the A-10 does not. They’re relatively equal. If they weren’t, you would have a better KD in it since you claimed it’s that strong.
And correct.
Not even lol. The Rafale sits at 14.0 where Fox-3 missiles are. Don’t even bother comparing the two. Anyone can reasonably see the absurd difference between an A-10 and a Rafale that can compare to an F-15E.
All A-10 usually end up dying last or near last because they take longer to reach the battlefield.
They have the same speed in a BR of Mach Jets.
yep
As I’ve been talking about performance and trt, turn radius shouldn’t be hard to guess.
If only he can suppress the opponent with the GAU8, and his opponents are not using gsh or nr.
We are not shooting aim9x. Hold for a most promising shot. Those flareless guys won’t stand a chance
Bad psychological guess.
Yep. And it’s very enjoyable to react in this one.
Quote: Amazing gun with a great ammunition supply…
I knew these Antimeches will make stat shamers happy xD
Hey your stats
O I should stop
You can kill RFL when you are close behind him ain’t it :D
mig23ml and f4s flies faster and dies faster. 10.7± matches? People still need to work on the opponent longer.
More climbers also means more chance to meet those who are still diving to a10s.
You already mentioned its turn radius? Why would I assume you meant is again?
If they’re beyond 2 kilometers and flying smart, it will never hit. Even the AIM-9M struggles to hit targets at super close range.
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That’s what it’s good at.
No speed, and the opponent needs to fly into your sight.
I didn’t shame you. 1.5 KD is good, but not insane. You claimed the vehicle is overpowered, but your stats don’t show that. They just show the plane being good.
This, however, is statshaming.
You’re still not understanding the difference.
First Mig-23 players are at 11.0. The first F-4E’s are 11.3. You still see them regularly in both the A-10A.
I said rate and radius at the same time
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So keep people away and shoot when they are close.
I said it’s good, especially when downtiers for we are talking about facing flareless planes, and not bad and/or fun with GAU spray in a gunfight.
Though I started this by opposing “Get behind and shoot”, which is not an useful advice
We are both Antimech enjoyers we should be friends
I won’t say it’s too different when it’s about 1<10 and -10<10.
Yes they are correct, so right that there’s no need to say again
~9.7 there are still milans and lightenings
~10.3/7 there comes f8, smt, m3e etc.
~11.7 12.0 for 23ml and 4s
But
12.7 f14 f16 f18 m29
These guys.
that’s an evolve from apq100+7D to n019+27er. Given that ARB players don’t really like to defend,…
APG-73 and AIM-7P is a mean combo too from what I’ve heard
This game is TDM and at some point you or somebody else, but often you if you’re the “good player” of the lobby, will have to go 1v1 a plane that can delete you if it looks anywhere near you.
You are ignorant of the reasoning as to why the A-10 is problematic to flareless jets.
He didn’t insult any playerbase. Are you baiting?
If you’re not that good you also can’t go around telling other people they are lesser for complaining about something that you yourself are not that good to deal with.